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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:03:14 GMT -5
Post by pede on Feb 22, 2009 20:03:14 GMT -5
Molefan's Pikmin Count:
0 Red Pikmin 2 Yellow Pikmin 0 Blue Pikmin 2 Purple Pikmin 0 White Pikmin
And no, that is not a misprint.
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:16:42 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 22, 2009 20:16:42 GMT -5
Woohoo, Double kill!
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:36:12 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 22, 2009 20:36:12 GMT -5
THANK YOU PARZIVAL.
OK, I'm claiming a nightkill and a strengthened protect.
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:37:30 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 22, 2009 20:37:30 GMT -5
Oh wait... can't... Roxis self-protected, she might know about the attempt on her life.
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:38:53 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 22, 2009 20:38:53 GMT -5
Wait, if there's going to be two nightkills tomorrow anyway, I can still claim. What do you guys think? I can say it definitely wasn't a trophyfying attempt...
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 20:52:39 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 22, 2009 20:52:39 GMT -5
Well, that sucked. You were right. We should have gone for Pollux.
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 21:27:57 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 22, 2009 21:27:57 GMT -5
Any way we can turn the "Parzival" situation to our advantage?
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Day 5
Feb 22, 2009 23:14:04 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 22, 2009 23:14:04 GMT -5
Also, I love "Saladin". Hahahahaheee! ;D
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 0:29:07 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 0:29:07 GMT -5
I guess I am expected to claim now. Anyone care to double check my role claim again before I go? I have a feeling they are going to lynch me based on my claim. Especially since I don't know what any of the items do.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:18:42 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:18:42 GMT -5
OK, let's see where we are. The difficulty is that if we get Peeker, Punker and Nanook all killed, we're short night-kill power, yet these three are the biggest targets right now. I think Nanook is toast and I dread having Punker eliminated for the "poison" thing to be revealed. I suggest maybe we bus Peeker next round and I investigate Punker as town?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:19:25 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:19:25 GMT -5
I guess I am expected to claim now. Anyone care to double check my role claim again before I go? I have a feeling they are going to lynch me based on my claim. Especially since I don't know what any of the items do. Also I hate the idea of you claiming Peach. Any other possible characters that could be used? I mean, Peach is such a naturally scummy choice...
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:19:50 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:19:50 GMT -5
How about Marth?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:21:22 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:21:22 GMT -5
And how about a third-party jester or something? What do you guys think of the chances of pulling this one off?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:23:18 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:23:18 GMT -5
OK, let's see where we are. The difficulty is that if we get Peeker, Punker and Nanook all killed, we're short night-kill power, yet these three are the biggest targets right now. I think Nanook is toast and I dread having Punker eliminated for the "poison" thing to be revealed. I suggest maybe we bus Peeker next round and I investigate Punker as town? Nah, forget that actually. We still need Peeker for a night-kill. Oooooh. PEEKER is a Jester. Hell yeah. That'd work. What do you guys think?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 13:25:23 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 13:25:23 GMT -5
So lemme see... we bus him tonight, but make sure Nanook is voted off. Tomorrow I claim a white Pikmin, giving me access to his role name and alignment. I claim Master Hand, third party Jester. Whammo. Oh that sounds like a plan to me.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 14:21:05 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 23, 2009 14:21:05 GMT -5
That sounds terrible actually. Everyone take a deep breath.
Last Night's no kill, regardless of what Natlaw thinks, doesn't actually hurt us. 8-5 vs 7-5 is pretty much a wash. He's off because he's working on the assumption of 4 scum left. We know better.
Don't play around with your PM anymore than is necessary. KISS is the name of the game. Trying to change your name and then change the flavor text to match just won't work. Stick with Peach, but ditch the stupid line about running the tool shed. It just doesn't make any sense for a tool shed, as opposed to a bar.
I'd split up, Punker and Peeker should be coming out for my death Today. Molefan should be backing holding the bird in the hand for later, since you have the most town cred. Push KidV if you can. Kat should probably support Molefan on that end.
If we can get KidV lynched Today, we'll put them into LYLO tomorrow. Molefan can then bus someone FTW. Our NKs tonight will be people that aren't likely to be protected, since the only thing that matters at this point is getting bodies on the floor.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 16:56:06 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 23, 2009 16:56:06 GMT -5
If it were anybody but Princess Peach, I'd agree, but let's face it, my perception would def. be that NOBODY is going to make the world's most hated videogame character ever (apart from Slippy Toad) a townie. Oh well... let's hope nobody else thinks that way.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 20:31:38 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 20:31:38 GMT -5
Princess Peach (Town Inventor)
You were always a bit uneasy about the whole 'fighting tournament' thing. Something about the place just seemed wrong, like there was a seedy underbelly just waiting to strike. You have an extra ability that might help survive, though. Because you're known for being good at improvisation and an excellent tinker, you have made some inventions that may help even the odds. Now, if you could just remember which boxes held which inventions...
1. Once per night, you may use one invention. 2. You may target someone more than once. 3. You will be able to choose your target, but not your invention. 4. Your inventions are: Maxim Tomato (1) Star Power (1) Light Spotted Mushroom (1) Dark Spotted Mushroom (1) Bunny Hood (2) Essence of Hate (2) Essence of Love (3) Pollen (4) Mr. Saturn (4)
I agree. The tool shed thing was retarded. How is this?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 20:33:52 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 20:33:52 GMT -5
Princess Peach (Town Inventor)
You were always a bit uneasy about the whole 'fighting tournament' thing. Something about the place just seemed wrong, like there was a seedy underbelly just waiting to strike. You have an extra ability that might help survive, though. Because you're known for being good at improvisation and an excellent tinker, you have made some inventions that may help even the odds. Now, if you could just remember which boxes held which inventions...
1. Once per night, you may use one invention. 2. You may target someone more than once. 3. You will be able to choose your target, but not your invention. 4. Your inventions are: Maxim Tomato (1) Star Power (1) Light Spotted Mushroom (1) Dark Spotted Mushroom (1) Bunny Hood (2) Essence of Hate (2) Essence of Love (3) Pollen (4) Mr. Saturn (4)
I agree. The tool shed thing was retarded. How is this?
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 20:34:58 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 20:34:58 GMT -5
sorry for the double post.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 20:45:29 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 20:45:29 GMT -5
I still don't know who I should claim to have targeted.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 20:58:30 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 23, 2009 20:58:30 GMT -5
Claim at least a couple of dead people, but not all dead people.
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Day 5
Feb 23, 2009 21:10:45 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 23, 2009 21:10:45 GMT -5
I will have to have reasons for who I claim though. That's why I was thinking of claiming Kat before. I think most of my "inventions" look like helpful things and nobody would question why I used them on a town looking player. If I did claim a town player they might say that I didn't use anything on them though.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 6:24:03 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 24, 2009 6:24:03 GMT -5
I will have to have reasons for who I claim though. That's why I was thinking of claiming Kat before. I think most of my "inventions" look like helpful things and nobody would question why I used them on a town looking player. If I did claim a town player they might say that I didn't use anything on them though. Sorry Batty, but I hate it and I think the claim's going to give you away easily. I gotta go against Nanook on this one, I cannot see how claiming Peach is ever going to get you anything except a tight noose. The scum are supposed to be against the tourney, remember? And the town knows this. How do you square Princess Peach with a pro-fighting-tournament stance? (Hell, in the claim you've written out here, you've basically not tried... you've said "You were always a bit uneasy..." That looks straight out of a scum PM. I know the town's not been the most perceptive ever early on, but that's taking the biscuit.) Also, and I cannot stress this enough, Peach is HATED. She beat out the frikkin' duck hunt dog in a poll of "most hated videogame characters ever", for chrissakes. Do you have any idea how annoying that stupid giggling fuckwit dog is? Well Peach is worse. I've had an idea for a role that I'm working on now. Let me get back to you before you go ahead and claim.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 11:43:18 GMT -5
Post by pede on Feb 24, 2009 11:43:18 GMT -5
Also, and I cannot stress this enough, Peach is HATED. She beat out the frikkin' duck hunt dog in a poll of "most hated videogame characters ever", for chrissakes. Do you have any idea how annoying that stupid giggling fuckwit dog is? Well Peach is worse. Really? Where?
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 14:04:46 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 24, 2009 14:04:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Are you seriously arguing that a claim made up whole cloth is better than a modified one solely on the basis that some poll of an unknown base voted Peach most hated? Are you really saying that players like Hoopy and Pollux are going to say something like "Well I wasn't going to vote this way before, but Peach? Lynch him now!" I hope they do. It's an absolutely insane decision, and it gives us an out to get one of them lynched.
I get a definate feeling of desperation coming from you all right now, and I really don't for the life of me understand it. Yeah, I'm outed. And yeah, punker and peeker have pressure on them. So what? This is MAFIA, not Make Sure All The Scum Survive Forever. You either win or lose, you don't get bonus points for keeping more people alive. The way I look at it, we're playing for one of two wins. One is convincing Town to mislynch Today, either KidV or Shaggy being the best targets for that, and then blood bathing them overNight into a win. The other is to win the long game, with Molefan acting as a semi-"confirmed" Townie down to 3 handed. Guess what, in the end they're both the same. A win is a win. There is no reason to jeapordize our chances of winning on some stupid gambit for the sole reason of protecting people that aren't actually that important in the long run. And that includes me.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 15:05:14 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 24, 2009 15:05:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Are you seriously arguing that a claim made up whole cloth is better than a modified one solely on the basis that some poll of an unknown base voted Peach most hated? No, I'm arguing that a claim by a character who's got a better motive than anyone to dislike the tourney that the scum are supposed to be disrupting, and according to that claim DOES dislike the tourney the scum are supposed to be disrupting, might reasonably be assumed by ourselves to be taken by the town as scummy! Seriously - what part of that claim do you think the town are going to "buy"? The colour looks scummy as hell. The powers look scummy as hell (he can't choose which power he uses on which person and doesn't know whether they're positive or negative in effect? Really?) IMO even the role itself is scummy as hell. There is no way in hell that Punker should use that claim. I'm cooking up an alternative now. Give me a minute.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 15:17:33 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 24, 2009 15:17:33 GMT -5
Then do you keep harping on how much Peach is hated as a character? If you're really arguing the claim is, then just say that. Then edit the claim so it isn't bad. A whole cloth claim is just asking for trouble, ESPECIALLY when we know there's someone out there that gets to see discarded roles. Do you really want to make up a whole cloth claim, only to end up counter claimed by Pollux saying "You're lying. I got that role last Night, and here it is."? I'll say it again, KISS. Don't try and get cute when it isn't needed.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 15:18:18 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 24, 2009 15:18:18 GMT -5
Also, and I cannot stress this enough, Peach is HATED. She beat out the frikkin' duck hunt dog in a poll of "most hated videogame characters ever", for chrissakes. Do you have any idea how annoying that stupid giggling fuckwit dog is? Well Peach is worse. Really? Where? God, I don't know, I saw it on YouTube somewhere.
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Day 5
Feb 24, 2009 15:18:37 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 24, 2009 15:18:37 GMT -5
She still didn't beat Slippy Toad though.
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