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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 28, 2009 14:55:56 GMT -5
Ouch, got my quotes a bit skewiff in that past post. Still, you can see what I'm saying. Basically, if Roxis is supposed to be scum, wouldn't she be the absolute last person to make a mistake based on not reading the scum role PM properly? Might be a nice way to frame Sinjin if it comes down to it. Good point. Also good to hold on to that info for later. Thanks for pointing it out. We should keep a few things up our sleeves.
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Post by virginmary on Jan 28, 2009 19:56:17 GMT -5
I agree. Hell, I even got a vote for suggesting that that is your playstyle and I should know better. Sheesh, go figure. And Nanook leave your vote on me no matter what. Gotta check something, however.
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Post by mrspecialed on Jan 28, 2009 22:03:27 GMT -5
I'm having trouble keeping up in 3 games and 3 boards just for this one game!
Nanook, maybe you can breadcrumb your posting restriction by numbering your posts from now on. And then claim it when needed later on.
roxis' claim is interesting. It seems to confirm that none of the roles might be what we usually expect.
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Post by virginmary on Jan 28, 2009 22:22:34 GMT -5
Well, unfortunately, we've got the pattern as being active. Kat and Nanook, you guys should lay back and see what happens for a bit. Let the rest of us kind of muddy the water. If we get through today intact it will be a flippin' miracle. At this point I am inclimed to go back after Roxis with a secondary on parmesan. Let's at least see if we can get another role claim. Otherwise, start slowing down and have a plausible role claim set to go. Let's see if KidV and me can get into it. But we need to be prepared by tomorrow night to really have a concensus.
And I am questioning the mason kill strategy. I say leave 'em alive for the confusion factor. Even if we kill them both and one of us false claims a detec is going to out two of us if either gets investigated.
Hoop and/or sach should be our primary targets, imho, of course.
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Post by molefan1981 on Jan 28, 2009 22:24:16 GMT -5
Stay cool everyone. There's fifteen people with at least one vote on them, with one of us escaping completely unscathed and two others only picked on with throwaway votes. That's not a bad spot to be in.
Having said that, it might be a good idea to have a second victim ready in cast the Parzival thing dies down. If it does, Roxia is looking like an unlikely second candidate after her role PM outing, which means that Crazy and Special are next in the firing line. Let's try and avoid that happening!
Any suggestions? Who do we bus and who does the bussing? After Gastard, I'd rather it not be me, because I think I'd be at the most risk of having it go completely tits-up!
On a different subject, following my response to his post about my defensiveness, brokentree has sent me a rather emotional PM (with no game-specific info whatsoever, for the sake of the mods - I'm not accusing him of cheating!) asking me not to quit. This is great from a game perspective, but makes me feel rather guilty - my post was really meant to try and quieten down the charge that could be levelled at me of "defensiveness", but unless the guy's sitting in a quiet room laughing at my naivety right now it seems that I've got at least one person completely fooled. Which is rather disquieting when that person sends you PMs like his...
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Post by mrspecialed on Jan 28, 2009 22:25:38 GMT -5
If we leave the Masons alive. I won't survive past Night 2..which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Right now, miteymouse is the mason with the most suspicion in the mason board.
Maybe I'm being selfish in hoping for a Night 1 kill of both masons just so I can live.
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Post by mrspecialed on Jan 28, 2009 22:28:47 GMT -5
mole, I think I become an obvious bus target when the masons come out. Though I'd like to get at least one of them first to reduce any confirmed pile. It might even be good, if we come out on Day 2, to have us split between which mason we trust. But I think we can't wit for a detective to go through us, though it might not be bad now that I think about it. Wasting his investigations/confirmations on masons :-)
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Post by mrspecialed on Jan 28, 2009 22:44:45 GMT -5
FYI, the latest in the mason thread I'm confused too. I guess it comes down to this. When do we claim? And do we all claim? We've still got some time to decide. Day 1 doesn't end until Friday. It doesn't look like any of us will be up for a lynching toDay, though I'm not sure if that's good or bad. In any case, our voting in here is just for show, right? I mean, we can't actually lynch each other in the mason thread. I think we should comeout at the same time...or as close together as we can. I think because one of us is Scum that if we come out together then the main thread can decide which of us to look at and lynch. We are, in effect, offering ourselves up to be sacreficed because of the 1 Scummy with us...and hoping for the best. I'm not sure of when though, the rash part of me says now...but it may be better to wait until Day 2 as to not get a flurry of last minute votes. That being said, I think I made myself a huge target and (the selfish part of me thinks) maybe coming out on Day 1 might put WiFOM for the Scum and the protections. So, I guess, I see good points for both now and the start of Day 2...I don't think we should wait longer than that though.
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Post by virginmary on Jan 28, 2009 23:37:11 GMT -5
Stay cool everyone. There's fifteen people with at least one vote on them, with one of us escaping completely unscathed and two others only picked on with throwaway votes. That's not a bad spot to be in. Having said that, it might be a good idea to have a second victim ready in cast the Parzival thing dies down. If it does, Roxia is looking like an unlikely second candidate after her role PM outing, which means that Crazy and Special are next in the firing line. Let's try and avoid that happening! Any suggestions? Who do we bus and who does the bussing? After Gastard, I'd rather it not be me, because I think I'd be at the most risk of having it go completely tits-up! On a different subject, following my response to his post about my defensiveness, brokentree has sent me a rather emotional PM (with no game-specific info whatsoever, for the sake of the mods - I'm not accusing him of cheating!) asking me not to quit. This is great from a game perspective, but makes me feel rather guilty - my post was really meant to try and quieten down the charge that could be levelled at me of "defensiveness", but unless the guy's sitting in a quiet room laughing at my naivety right now it seems that I've got at least one person completely fooled. Which is rather disquieting when that person sends you PMs like his... Not cool at all. I mean we lie and and mis characterize within the context of the game. PMs regarding the game are definitely verbotten. I want to win, but there are some limits. Help, pede. Sheesh, guys/gals and I don't want to sound preachy but the entire fun of this exercise is based on some sort of integrity. God, I feel like a fool in even preaching to you "kids". Pede, take me out of the game 'cause this is not how I play. Sheesh, mole you seem like a nice enough sort but crud it's not life and you really need to learn to play by the rules. Nanook, Kat - any input here? Ofuggedaboutit.
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 23:43:50 GMT -5
Stay cool everyone. There's fifteen people with at least one vote on them, with one of us escaping completely unscathed and two others only picked on with throwaway votes. That's not a bad spot to be in. Having said that, it might be a good idea to have a second victim ready in cast the Parzival thing dies down. If it does, Roxia is looking like an unlikely second candidate after her role PM outing, which means that Crazy and Special are next in the firing line. Let's try and avoid that happening! Any suggestions? Who do we bus and who does the bussing? After Gastard, I'd rather it not be me, because I think I'd be at the most risk of having it go completely tits-up! On a different subject, following my response to his post about my defensiveness, brokentree has sent me a rather emotional PM (with no game-specific info whatsoever, for the sake of the mods - I'm not accusing him of cheating!) asking me not to quit. This is great from a game perspective, but makes me feel rather guilty - my post was really meant to try and quieten down the charge that could be levelled at me of "defensiveness", but unless the guy's sitting in a quiet room laughing at my naivety right now it seems that I've got at least one person completely fooled. Which is rather disquieting when that person sends you PMs like his... Not cool at all. I mean we lie and and mis characterize within the context of the game. PMs regarding the game are definitely verbotten. I want to win, but there are some limits. Help, pede. Sheesh, guys/gals and I don't want to sound preachy but the entire fun of this exercise is based on some sort of integrity. God, I feel like a fool in even preaching to you "kids". Pede, take me out of the game 'cause this is not how I play. Sheesh, mole you seem like a nice enough sort but crud it's not life and you really need to learn to play by the rules. Nanook, Kat - any input here? Ofuggedaboutit. What? It sounds like BrokenTree sent molefan a PM. One way communication. I'll go check molefan's assertions, but from what I heard, I'm not going to take any strong actions. If something else happened, though...
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Post by mrspecialed on Jan 29, 2009 0:00:52 GMT -5
well, no need to worry about NK'ing the masons now.
let's see how this plays out, but I think lynching them is in order now, Mitey first, Zeriel second, and then me third seems unavoidable.
punker, don't jump right into the discussion. let's see what happens first, then we can go along with wherever the flow goes.
Everyone else, carry on :-)
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 0:48:41 GMT -5
I was reading over there and I was about to post but then I decided to check here first. Good thing.
I have a feeling that someone is going to suggest a role claim for each mason to help decide who is the scum. I hope you have one ready.
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Post by kat on Jan 29, 2009 0:52:56 GMT -5
Heh. Sorry, I've been sick and not posting, and just spent the last hour and a half reading up on the game board, so I didn't refresh this page during that time.
Peeks it sounds like moley received a PM, not sent one, and was just amused that brokentree took his postings so seriously. Please stay in?
And since the Mason-NK plan is now dead in the water, I'll get behind the Hoopy or sache campaign. Which one in particular I'll decide later, since I need to get some sleep now.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 1:03:00 GMT -5
I agree with killing Hoopy or Sache. Maybe both, but that might be a waste of a good poison.
One thought on poisons though... I could poison the surviving good mason with petrification or something. I don't know exactly what it does, but he may not be able to communicate in the forums and the town might decide to lynch him tomorrow. Just a thought. Let me know what you think.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 1:03:29 GMT -5
I meant Day 2 obviously, not tomorrow IRL.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 1:08:45 GMT -5
One more crazy idea... I don't know how cure works, but if they decide to lynch our mason I could have already placed a cure potion on him. I don't know if we could come up with something useful for him to claim if he survived a lynch. Maybe he was reborn with a new role and alignment?
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Post by molefan1981 on Jan 29, 2009 5:47:40 GMT -5
Not cool at all. I mean we lie and and mis characterize within the context of the game. PMs regarding the game are definitely verbotten. I want to win, but there are some limits. Help, pede. Sheesh, guys/gals and I don't want to sound preachy but the entire fun of this exercise is based on some sort of integrity. God, I feel like a fool in even preaching to you "kids". Pede, take me out of the game 'cause this is not how I play. Sheesh, mole you seem like a nice enough sort but crud it's not life and you really need to learn to play by the rules. Nanook, Kat - any input here? Ofuggedaboutit. What? It sounds like BrokenTree sent molefan a PM. One way communication. I'll go check molefan's assertions, but from what I heard, I'm not going to take any strong actions. If something else happened, though... OK, I come back and the s--t is perilously close to having hit the fan. So let's nip this one in the bud. HE GAVE OUT NO GAME SPECIFIC INFO WHATSOEVER. He didn't even touch on this game, except to try and persuade me to stay in it. Like I said, I'm not accusing BrokenTree of cheating here.
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Post by molefan1981 on Jan 29, 2009 5:57:08 GMT -5
FTR I've sent the PM and my (three-line long, also totally non-game-related) response to it for Pedescribe to vet.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 9:18:28 GMT -5
do the town know how many scum there are?
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Post by pede on Jan 29, 2009 9:40:20 GMT -5
No.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 11:31:56 GMT -5
Wow! Good job Ed ;D I think both other masons have come under more scrutiny than you. If this continues I think one of us should go against the grain and vote for you, but with a less than perfect argument. This could serve two purposes. One, it gives someone some serious credit with the town. Two, if the argument looks valid but weak it will probably work to make you less suspicious. only one person suspected him first of all masons and it was for a weak reason.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 11:33:42 GMT -5
Wow! Good job Ed ;D I think both other masons have come under more scrutiny than you. If this continues I think one of us should go against the grain and vote for you, but with a less than perfect argument. This could serve two purposes. One, it gives someone some serious credit with the town. Two, if the argument looks valid but weak it will probably work to make you less suspicious. only one person suspected him first of all masons and it was for a weak reason.Then again I suppose they might suspect that tactic after day 2. Whatever you guys think. It might be WiFOM.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 12:37:24 GMT -5
I just read the main thread. Zeriel asks you to post your PM with Town mason so he can prove Mouse is faking when hers only says mason.
This couldn't be more perfect. Mouse has the most suspicion right now. If you post yours the same as hers it will make Zeriel the most suspicious. He may get lynched day one and then day two Mouse will likely still seem the more suspicious.
Another thing to think about: We don't know Zeriel's power. We know Mouse's. It might work to our benefit to eliminate the unknown. I would post a PM that just says mason right now.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 12:38:54 GMT -5
Keep in mind that most of the town's night powers will likely be directed at the surviving masons if a good mason is lynched.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 29, 2009 12:46:02 GMT -5
I keep posting my ideas here for consideration, but nobody really ever says anything about them. I don't know whether I should keep posting them or not. Am I just saying things that you guys already thought of? Also, let me know when you think I should weigh in on the Masons thing. I have held off talking in the main thread because you suggested it and I trust your experience. Let me know when you feel it is safe to rejoin the discussions.
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Post by nanook on Jan 29, 2009 15:31:23 GMT -5
Don't worry about it man. Just keep posting your ideas. There's no such thing as too many posts in here.
I actually kind of line the idea of giving Ed the cure potion, IF it would let him survive a lynch. At this point Ed has a VERY short lifespan, and every Day he lives is a win for us.
Which reminds me. There are 5 of us, and we're pretty packed with power, but goddam if we aren't seriously neutered as well. A scum mason, when the other masons know there is one, has a short lifespan at best, and lovers very rarely survive long. Especially when one half of the pairing has a post restriction. So we started 5, but really in a lot of ways there's only 3 of us. You guys are going to have to do most of the work.
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Post by molefan1981 on Jan 29, 2009 17:40:40 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way in hell any of us should ever suggest that there are six scum. I've been hovering between four and five in the main thread. Let's keep it that way. Also, Crazy, you'll see about ten thousand posts from me in here before too long, so keep posting those ideas. If nothing else, they'll keep me grounded / sane. BTW very, very nice work today scum. It looks as though Special's gone from being the top Mason suspect to the underdog. My idea - I protect Roxio or Parvizal tonight (unless we're still going after the masons, which seems kinda futile now, we kill the other one presumably) using my first two picmins or pacmans or whatever the f--k they're called, then covertly claim in the main town thread. Point out that they were "digging a hole" and that I helped out - some reference that only the person I protected would understand. And then wakababoom! I'm a backup doc! And I can claim and have a genuine town back me up if things get hairy! Of course this depends on two things. Pede, I got questions: 1) Is the person I "hide" informed that they were hidden? 2) Assuming (1) is "yes", does that person know that they were hidden by a scummy player?
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Post by pede on Jan 29, 2009 18:28:03 GMT -5
Don't worry about it man. Just keep posting your ideas. There's no such thing as too many posts in here. I actually kind of line the idea of giving Ed the cure potion, IF it would let him survive a lynch. At this point Ed has a VERY short lifespan, and every Day he lives is a win for us. Which reminds me. There are 5 of us, and we're pretty packed with power, but goddam if we aren't seriously neutered as well. A scum mason, when the other masons know there is one, has a short lifespan at best, and lovers very rarely survive long. Especially when one half of the pairing has a post restriction. So we started 5, but really in a lot of ways there's only 3 of us. You guys are going to have to do most of the work. ...you're forgetting one. Kat, peeker, crazypunker, you, Mr. Spec Ed, and molefan. That's six. 1) Is the person I "hide" informed that they were hidden? 2) Assuming (1) is "yes", does that person know that they were hidden by a scummy player? I'll be honest--I had intended that to only work on you. However, having it work on other people won't affect the game balance much, and I can certainly see how it could read that way...so I'll allow it. Now then: 1. Yes 2. No
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Post by nanook on Jan 29, 2009 18:53:52 GMT -5
Nice brainfart. Glad I didn't do it in the game thead, my lifespan is short enough as it is. It doesn't really change my point that 2 of us came in with guaranteed short lifespans. Though to be fair, on balance there was a possibility of Ed becoming nigh unlynchable.
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Post by kat on Jan 29, 2009 19:02:26 GMT -5
So, Ed, considering that the other Masons don't have a paragraph of color to start with, I sithdraw my recommendation to put one in to replace the scumcolor.
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