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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 10:46:00 GMT -5
OK, so why don't you start by telling me who you DO NOT think should be killed?
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 12:15:17 GMT -5
Good, so Bear died and I did not have to change my vote. I was checking carefully and was able to maintain my Peeker vote and my integrity and someone else died.
Anyway, let's try to focus on two things.
1. Who should I kill? Who should we NOT kill?
2. What strategies can we use to have all three of us survive Day Five?
Let's use our extra day(we have until Wed.) to strategize both our kill and our own survival for toMorrow.
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 12:38:21 GMT -5
That couldn't have gone better.
I suggest we kill either Meeko, Chronos or peeker. I'm leaning towards Chronos because I'm certain that he's the politician and I think that as part of his role, he got information that blackhearts had never voted for blackhearts.
I worry that peeker might be a Cop, but I'm actually leaning towards Sinner right now. There's something that everybody has forgotten: paul sinfected a townie Night One, but only one player claimed to be sinfected. Where's the second sinfected player? It's either Thing Fish, Meeko or one of us. It's entirely possible that Freudian tried to sinfect mahaloth, and when he didn't claim she figured that mahaloth had decided to join the sinners. Then peeker subs in and realizes that Mahaloth didn't claim because Mahaloth didn't know that the sinner had tried to sinfect him.
Meeko is a Mason and thus has to die, but I don't think that it's critical that it happen right away. One problem is -- and I can't believe that I made this mistake -- is that Meeko knows that I'm a doctor. If somebody claims cop and we kill them, I'm in trouble. I didn't think it through. Hopefully this one doesn't bite us.
Oh, and while you damn near gave me a heart attack by not switching your vote, Mahaloth, it paid off big time. Gutsy move.
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 12:50:07 GMT -5
And now they're talking mass claim.
Which could actually save my bacon, because if I'm outed as a Doc I can just say that I self-protected...
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 12:51:05 GMT -5
Yes, it was gutsy, but I played it. Bear never voted and I was actively refreshing the page every minute or so, but it worked! Most sly move I've made in the whole game. So, Meeko knows for sure you are a cop? I know you were going to hint to him it was you, but I thought you missed your chance. How does he know? Does your protection include prevention of sinfection, or just death?
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 12:55:59 GMT -5
Let this mass claim thing play out. If they choose that Meeko decides the order of the claims, we can lynch him and throw a little chaos their way.
I hope lynching Meeko does not point toward me, however. I had two votes last night(Rysto's doesn't count in my book). If we kill Meeko, will people assume it was me, or can we spin it that only a moron would NK a guy who voted for him.
It would fit with yesterday, however. We did the other mason last night.
Who should we avoid killing?
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 13:01:45 GMT -5
Just death.
I put the exact wording of the PM he got in a post. Soon afterward, he told ed that there was an important message on the Mason board. So, I don't know that he knows, but I'm pretty sure that he does.
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Post by joeyp on May 24, 2009 13:03:21 GMT -5
FTR
1. Allwalker (PURE) 3. BillMC (claims to be ensinned) 5. Chronos (PURE) 6. Peekercpa (PURE) 7. Inner Stickler (claims to be ensinned) 12. Meeko (MASON) 18. Thing Fish
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Post by joeyp on May 24, 2009 13:08:42 GMT -5
Do we have a sample Vanilla PM to work with? Also, I suppose we'll investigate Thing Fish tonight, unless someone wants to investigate someone else.
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Post by joeyp on May 24, 2009 13:28:32 GMT -5
Okay, here's my PM
We'll need to make some adjustments (what about the name???), but I think I can still claim to be an investigator. If asked, I can say I investigated Allwalker, Chronos, and Rysto and whomever I investigate tonight, they all came back as pure. On the one hand, I'd like to include one of us (like I did), OTOH, if the person on my list dies before I do, I'll get killed the next day. The only way that could be avoided is if I put Mahaloth (it's you right) on my list and if he dies, Ped mentioned in the color that Mahaloth is a PURE blackheart. But I don't know if I can count on that.
Pede, if Mahaloth dies, would is pureness come through in the color?
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Post by joeyp on May 24, 2009 13:30:39 GMT -5
Errr, I just found a quick explination of "Mistress Hibbens", yeah, probably can't be that, OTOH, they do sometimes put the 'bad names' in with town and the 'good names' in with scum.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 13:35:43 GMT -5
I am still thinking if I want to claim to be "Pearl" if we are required to mass claim and include our role PM.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 19:10:47 GMT -5
Guys, we need to put together a generic pure Puritan role PM. If Meeko makes the order, I expect him to put me first.
He doesn't suspect me even though has voted for me, though I think he'll put me first.
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Post by joeyp on May 24, 2009 20:43:28 GMT -5
Now, don't forget, Meeko isn't planning to put out the list until Dawn. If we NK him tonight, the list won't get released. At the very least it'll slow everyone done for a little bit and you (mahaloth) probably won't have to claim first.
Do we want to kill Meeko? AllWalker? Peeker? Paul?
As for who to investigate, my plan is TF, I think he'll come back as a sinner, and we can gun for him toMorrow. Actually, if the ask me to 'prove' I'm the investigator, it'll be nice if TF comes back as sinner.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 20:57:54 GMT -5
Yes, Joey, I think that was our idea. Let Meeko set it up and take him out.
My only concern is how much killing Meeko will throw suspicion on me.
Remember, he voted for me the last two Days.
Do you guys see Peeker still attacking me relentlessly....and wrongly? Is there anything to be done about this? Even though he is right about me being scum, his reasonings and rational are totally crazy and wrong.
It's frustrating.
Oh, go for Thing fish. I don't care who we investigate.
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 21:04:49 GMT -5
Don't claim investigator. You'll have to lie and see that one of us is Town, or give truthful results that will give the Town enough information to win the game.
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 21:55:22 GMT -5
Sounds like Meeko is going to confirm me as Town.
I think that we should leave him alive for the Night. I'm thinking of hinting to him that he'll get the protection toNight so he'll wait until toMorrow.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 21:59:38 GMT -5
Ooooh, yes. I think Meeko might be hinting that.
Rysto, encourage him to reveal his "power role" secret.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 22:00:02 GMT -5
Do it now, please.
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Post by mahaloth on May 24, 2009 22:11:07 GMT -5
Chronos is helping us big time right now.
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Post by rysto on May 24, 2009 22:43:08 GMT -5
Rysto, encourage him to reveal his "power role" secret. I'm not sure that's the best move for a pro-town doctor to make. Does it really hurt us to have Meeko alive for one more Day?
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Post by joeyp on May 25, 2009 6:39:19 GMT -5
Don't claim investigator. You'll have to lie and see that one of us is Town, or give truthful results that will give the Town enough information to win the game. What if TF comes back as a sinner? My plan was to list everyone I investigated, less one person, and sub in one of you to (Rysto, unless I get confirmation that Mahaloth would be shown to be a PURE blackheart). If TF comes back as a sinner, hopefully they would believe me and lynch him tonight. They would probably still be unsure of my alignment, but they would be in lylo the next day. Eitherway, I still am going to need serious help re-writing my role PM. I've never read the book and am 100% unfamiliar with the characters. BTW is this a closed game? Did we get a list of names that would be used?
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Post by mahaloth on May 25, 2009 9:24:27 GMT -5
1. Joey, I am pure and would come back as pure blackheart. It was in my PM that I am pure.
2. Rysto, I'm on the fence about killing Meeko. If he makes up the claim list and posts it before Dawn, I see no reason to kill him. - I don't think he'll vote me again toMorrow. I think he has had his little fun with that idea and came too close to lynching his friend and will avoid it.
- He's so full of shit, which I say lovingly, that he is a great asset to us.
3. Who do we kill if not Meeko? Killing peeker would bring me great joy, but might throw suspcion on me. However, an argument could be made that only an idiot scum would kill the prime person after them. I, of course, am not an idiot and may be able to rely on others to be aware of it. Gamble, but maybe reasonable.
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Post by rysto on May 25, 2009 10:35:32 GMT -5
I don't think that it's worth the risk. We're so close now; just two mislynches away. I don't see the value of a gambit at this stage. What if you get counterclaimed? What if there's a cop out there who's investigated me? I don't think that it's worth it for you to lie unnecessarily at this juncture.
Even in Thing Fish comes back Sinner, I don't think that the Town will be interested in lynching him. They think that they're at lynch or lose.
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Post by mahaloth on May 25, 2009 11:44:17 GMT -5
You don't think what is worth it, Rysto? Killing Meeko? Killing Peeker?
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Post by rysto on May 25, 2009 12:02:33 GMT -5
I don't that Joey claiming Cop is worth it.
ToNight I'd like to do the townie thing and protect Meeko. I really thing that our best kill option is Chronos.
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Post by mahaloth on May 25, 2009 12:21:48 GMT -5
Why Chronos instead of Peeker?
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Post by rysto on May 25, 2009 12:38:30 GMT -5
Because I'm certain that he's the Politician. That's a confirmable role, so he's a good target.
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Post by mahaloth on May 25, 2009 13:16:01 GMT -5
However, if Meeko does not post a claim order before Dawn, I'd suggest killing him.
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Post by mahaloth on May 25, 2009 15:09:50 GMT -5
Joey, what do you think about toNight's kill? Who should it be?
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