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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:13:46 GMT -5
Post by pede on Feb 12, 2009 20:13:46 GMT -5
Nightkill discussion...along with whatever else needs discussing.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:24:15 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 12, 2009 20:24:15 GMT -5
Thanks, pede. Like I didn't already have throat-related emotional issues. *smacks pede*
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:25:21 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 12, 2009 20:25:21 GMT -5
Was it just me, or was anyone else seriously freaked out by that lynch colour? Jeez that was disturbing. And that's from the guy who came up with "weaponized hamster"... I think it would be nicely ironic if I killed TDPats now, given his final vote. I still like Parzival, Pollux and Roxis for potential victims though. And we need to make a decision on Nanook. If I'm going to bus him with an "investigation" in order to hopefully get us yet another double kill, this round would be the time to do it. We need to decide how we react and plan it out well. If not, I need to know so that I can lay the hell off him. Either way, let's formulate and ruminate here peeps. PS - a couple of days ago, when Brokentree was receiving a lot of votes, I thought the vote might very well turn to Chuchura late on. (Well, I was right there.) Here's what I had to say about it in a PM to Pede: Nice going scumbuddies.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:28:28 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 12, 2009 20:28:28 GMT -5
Oh, and Hoopy. Basically anyone with a "P" in his name.
Hoopy could rethink at this point, and that's a dangerous thing for him to be doing.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:35:44 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 12, 2009 20:35:44 GMT -5
And of course I am the out of control bytche. I think hoop needs to go bye bye. I'll see if I can get a drinker in a bit. Only question is whether charle goes for it, or me. Charle can continue to protect barb (or himself). I really am the weak leg in this group. So I could trophify again and still create a gk situation the next day if caught. Whatever the group decides. But remember if I am not out trophying I am basically a skin tag.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:50:57 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 12, 2009 20:50:57 GMT -5
What is our chance of a pikmin kill at max level?
Does charle or me go after someone tomorrow?
Should the killer(s) go after an ovious and then a lurker, or what?
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:55:29 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 12, 2009 20:55:29 GMT -5
Heh. Looks like paul may get himself talked into targeting shaggy. Maybe I should switch shaggy and roxis.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 20:56:18 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 12, 2009 20:56:18 GMT -5
I say since we can only use sheik every other day we need to take advantage of her when we can. I also agree with nking pretty much anyone right now. If I had to choose two people it would be Roxis and TDPatriots. I just don't want to find out what that staff does. I would also agree with lynching Pantz and Hoopy. It's really up to you guys, but I am going to try and poison one of those four, so we can find out who drinks and I will confuse them. Then we can kill two of the remaining three.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 21:23:21 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 12, 2009 21:23:21 GMT -5
What is our chance of a pikmin kill at max level? 100% baby. And the little purple dude counts as two Pikmin for a nightkill, so regardless of what colour Pikmin I get tonight, I still have six.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 21:24:04 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 12, 2009 21:24:04 GMT -5
I want Parz dead. So many of the roles we've so far have been percentage based, that a Sidekick scares the ever living hell out of me. Plus it seems all the heat on her has died down.
I think it might be worth swapping me and Roxis. If Shaggy gets NK'd that's not a big deal. If I get NK'd that's a problem. Better safe than sorry.
I'll do the kill tonight. I have a limited lifespan, and it's better to use me as much as possible.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 21:35:00 GMT -5
Post by pede on Feb 12, 2009 21:35:00 GMT -5
Pikmin Count:
2 Red Pikmin 1 Yellow Pikmin 0 Blue Pikmin 1 Purple Pikmin 1 White Pikmin
And if the Pikmin do an extra kill, they all die.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 21:45:45 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 12, 2009 21:45:45 GMT -5
How many percentage points do each one give again? If you can use say 4 to get an 80% chance, I'd be ok with that and to let er rip. You get more right?
TDpats just painted a nice big fat poison me sign on his back. I trust you know what to do.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 22:11:48 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 12, 2009 22:11:48 GMT -5
I think it might be worth swapping me and Roxis. If Shaggy gets NK'd that's not a big deal. If I get NK'd that's a problem. Better safe than sorry. That might be a good idea, unless we decide to NK roxis, of course. If we target roxis, I could switch you with someone else who's low on the suspicion list, like Hal or KidV (although, keep in mind, an SK might go after a OTR person).
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 22:44:45 GMT -5
Post by pede on Feb 12, 2009 22:44:45 GMT -5
Olimar's rules for doing the scum night kill and an extra kill are different.
Rules for regular killing: He can send anywhere from 2-6 pikmin (purples count for 2 here); sending 2 will have a 20% chance of success, and each subsequent one will add 20%. If the percentage succeeds, all the pikmin live, if it fails, they all die (meaning whether the pikmin live or die does not depend on a successful doc or roleblocker).
Rules for the Extra Kill: He must send 6 pikmin (purples count for 2 here), with a 100% chance of succeeding barring doc/block/etc. All the pikmin sent will die.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 23:06:43 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 12, 2009 23:06:43 GMT -5
go for the certain pikmin kill no matter what - let's not dick with a bad roll of the dice. charle kills whomever since his butt is hanging. poison td with the strongest thing we have left. let's keep it rolling. there are still a couple of us left that are kind of low suspicion wise. so we've got at least a couple of more days worse case scenario. that is the sane agt talking.
i toss it out again, should charle protect either him or barb and let me go trophifying? just an option since this is the weirdest democracy i have ever been a part of. whatever you all decide.
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Night 3
Feb 12, 2009 23:13:42 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 12, 2009 23:13:42 GMT -5
ok, maybe i am finally catching up. if it's an 80 on a chance of a kill and someone else kills, we go that route.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 0:18:29 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 13, 2009 0:18:29 GMT -5
So you'd have to use up all your pikmin, but it would be a guaranteed kill barring block/protect. You get more each Night right?
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 3:52:00 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 13, 2009 3:52:00 GMT -5
That's why I am confused. Is it a guaranteed kill or just the ability to allow two of us to go out killing?
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 4:24:48 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 13, 2009 4:24:48 GMT -5
I vote sheik does the NK and Olimar uses all of his pikmin for the extra kill. He will lose all his pacmans, but it's worth it.
I use confusion on TDPatriots.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 4:38:14 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 13, 2009 4:38:14 GMT -5
cancel that. i want to see who else drinks. [/b]
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 12:49:02 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 13, 2009 12:49:02 GMT -5
Well, so far, paul and td have had drinks. If no one else drinks, and if we end up whacking td as either the scumkill or the pikmin extra kill, you could experiment as you please with paul. That could be fun.
I'm leaning towards td, Parzival or Hoopy for kill targets.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 16:30:04 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 13, 2009 16:30:04 GMT -5
go for the certain pikmin kill no matter what - let's not dick with a bad roll of the dice. charle kills whomever since his butt is hanging. poison td with the strongest thing we have left. let's keep it rolling. there are still a couple of us left that are kind of low suspicion wise. so we've got at least a couple of more days worse case scenario. that is the sane agt talking. i toss it out again, should charle protect either him or barb and let me go trophifying? just an option since this is the weirdest democracy i have ever been a part of. whatever you all decide. That's what I was always going to do, Alex. This is why I've been saving up my little purple guy. It's just a case of, who do I use it on? And "confusion" sounds like a good thing to use on TD right now. If we're confusticating him, maybe I can take out Pollux, Parz or Roxis. At this point I'm thinking it's definitely best NOT to bus Nanook, but how this for an idea? At some point in the future claim to have investigated Tabuu... as an innocent...?
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 17:10:42 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 13, 2009 17:10:42 GMT -5
Interesting thought. Risky, but interesting.
So I think our plan for the evening is as follows.
I'll kill parz. Pikmins kill Hoopy. Confusion poison on TDpats. Swap me and Roxis or Pollux.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 18:45:36 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 13, 2009 18:45:36 GMT -5
That sounds like the dance card.
But remember I come back as master hand so if there is still some sort of town invest power that will screw two of us.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 19:34:16 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 13, 2009 19:34:16 GMT -5
I agree with that plan.
We kill hoopy and parz. I confuse TD. swap you and roxis.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 19:35:32 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 13, 2009 19:35:32 GMT -5
do you guys think I killed Sin and Ghostpaul is getting credit?
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 19:46:18 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 13, 2009 19:46:18 GMT -5
I think it's a possibility. I also think it's possible that either of you would have killed her. But I don't think this is a bad thing necessarily. It almost got Paul lynched, and might do so tomorrow.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 19:51:26 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 13, 2009 19:51:26 GMT -5
Charle, how much bs do you want from the pr. I can ramble for a bit if you think it helpful.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 21:25:13 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 13, 2009 21:25:13 GMT -5
OK ok ok back up a bit.
Somebody please explain to me what the rationale is for me killing Hoopy, who's got no known roles, has just been at the forefront of taking out a townie, and who might be frameable for another townie if Paul kills Shaggy, over someone like Pollux, who is a known and dangerous PR who nobody really suspects? Given that we pretty much know who the only likely docs are, and the two ones still living are out of the equasion tonight? Because I just don't get it. Do you really think there's yet another protective power that could save Pollux, or that the risk of him being "watched" is that great (again, given that we've just lost one watcher)?
I 100% agree with Parz, TD, Roxis and Shaggy, but for the life of me I can't understand why you guys are so hung up on the Hoopster. If he's that dangerous, why don't we just get him lynched? He's lost a MASSIVE amount of cred this past day and night. Just because I'm not supposed to suspect him for the time being doesn't mean that you guys can't either.
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Night 3
Feb 13, 2009 22:40:55 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 13, 2009 22:40:55 GMT -5
And now that Parz may have a drink, does that change the equation at all. He sure seems to be hung on paul at the moment.
Pede: a moment while we confer.
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