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Post by pede on Dec 18, 2011 13:27:13 GMT -5
Lot's to discus's!
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Post by special on Dec 18, 2011 13:47:07 GMT -5
sorry for being AWOL.
I hope things worked out well for us.
and sorry, gnarly. I think it might work out for the best however.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 18, 2011 13:58:13 GMT -5
it's all good...as long as we win. lol
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Post by septimus on Dec 18, 2011 22:16:54 GMT -5
I make so many mistakes, I'd better show proposed posts here before posting in game thread. (I'd like to vote to Lynch Mental Guy, but will wait and do this in a later post.) * * * * * * I'm very sorry to see guiri killed. I was leaning Town on him and felt this was confirmed when he led the Lynch against gnarly. I did self-protect again last Night. I wavered between myself and guiri, but with Players voicing suspicion about me, I had both Scum and the Vig to worry about, so I chose to self-protect. The only way to prove absolutely that I am the Doctor is for the Vig to identify him- or herself and say I was targeted; but that would probably be a bad idea. In previous games, several Players (enough so we're sure Townies are well represented) post messages like "I also agree the Vig and Doc should do that demonstration"; unfortunately that didn't happen the first Day I proposed such an experiment. I stand ready to do it again, but my Power is a waste if I self-Protect every Night. guiri is so valuable that I should have Protected him last Night instead of saving self ... especially if I'm to be Lynched anyway. As to why my PM has an oddity, I don't know what to say. Perhaps Trepa changed the format to prevent handshaking. All I know is I copied my PM exactly. I checked it again just now.
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Post by special on Dec 18, 2011 23:38:34 GMT -5
don't say you checked it again. That would be silly if you copy/pasted.
Also, after you sad face, maybe add something like. If only I was 100% that he was Town, I might have.
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Post by septimus on Dec 19, 2011 0:09:41 GMT -5
My internet is so bad I may not be able to post for a while. Doubt this message will appear
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Post by silverjan on Dec 19, 2011 0:37:42 GMT -5
It's interesting that there was only one NK, ours hehehe but does it mean that the Vig targeted Septimus or that Choie was blocked, I suppose it could have been both.
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Post by septimus on Dec 19, 2011 2:01:04 GMT -5
I'm thinking you're likely right; we blocked Choie the Vig. Too bad since she was doing a good job of killing Townies for us. I really think you shouldn't defend me, Jan. It might be better for you two to lead the charge against me, perhaps reluctantly backing off if I can induce Townies to insist Vig repeat the experiment toNight. (From the discussion, we may learn who Town's Powers are.) I'll probably vote to Lynch Mental Guy at some point, mainly based on Guiri's suspicions. Comments?
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Post by septimus on Dec 19, 2011 6:08:10 GMT -5
Maybe Scathach just saved me! Yay! Yay!
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Post by silverjan on Dec 20, 2011 1:45:51 GMT -5
I think I should go after fubbles again since Svejk made such a good case on him. Now Hirka wants to vote for me, crap!!!
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Post by silverjan on Dec 20, 2011 16:03:19 GMT -5
I am still terrified to write owt,choie just hates me lol
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Post by special on Dec 21, 2011 10:44:46 GMT -5
Probably not a wise move for me to call out our serial killer.
Maybe we should try to get her lynched.
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Post by special on Dec 21, 2011 11:16:49 GMT -5
of course, we can always just block her, I suppose
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Post by septimus on Dec 22, 2011 4:30:11 GMT -5
I'm afraid NK'ing choie will draw too much attention to me.
However, if you're pretty sure she is SK, then making sure she gets Lynched seems good idea, and should give some cred to those who vote her.
Requesting Night extension? Does that make her look like she has Night-time power?
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Post by septimus on Dec 22, 2011 4:41:41 GMT -5
PS: I realize that I should be making real cases, as though I were a Townie. Problem is ... the two that look scummiest to me are ... you two! (I don't know how much of this is bias due to knowledge.) For example, ed's voting and comments on Gnarly do seem suspicious. Maybe mentioning my suspicions would be a good idea: giving Town cred to other, when one of us goes down. Anyway, if I decide to accuse one of you, I'll post here first so that we can modify the case if it appears too good.
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Post by septimus on Dec 22, 2011 11:20:32 GMT -5
I may post something like the following when I'm online again, several hours from now. Comments please.
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Choie makes two charges against me; let me answer them.
(1) I allowed myself to attract suspicion early in the game. I suppose I should be quieter since my posts are generally misinterpreted. :-( In this case, my error was trying to answer Svejk's question about "3rd vote." A complete answer needed mention of Wifom; I introduced a hypothetical that PCM accused Svejk of applying Wifom to his own 3rd vote. This seemed unlikely enough, I thought it unnecessary to refer to players "X" and "Y" rather than actual names, but obviously I was wrong. My post thus seemed like a smudge against PCM and hence Scummy. I should be more careful. (Meanwhile, lurking PCM still strikes me as suspicious but I'll still leave lurkers to our Vig.)
(2) I should have protected Guiri instead of myself. In hindsight I agree of course, but still defend my choice on several grounds: (a) there was enough anti-Septimus talk to make me worry I'd be Vigged. (And the fact that only one Death occurred that Night may confirm this.) (b) I couldn't be sure Scum would attack guiri -- after all they'd not Killed him Night 1 or 2. (c) Doc self-protecting is not as bad as choie implies. Remember every Night I'm alive, there's a chance I'll force Scum to waste their NK. Once I'm Dead that chance disappears.
In addition to her making illogical charges about my play, I'm getting other strong scum vibes from choie. I'd not be surprised if she tried to NK me last Night, either as Scum or SK, failed, and is now trying for my Death in Daytime.
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Answering Mahaloth, I had very similar problems with SDMB at about the same time as you, even though I run Firefox with AdBlock. I often have very slow Internet (and worry I have viruses even though Avast says OK), but in this case SDMB was the only problematic website.
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Post by special on Dec 22, 2011 19:38:40 GMT -5
looks OK to me
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Post by special on Dec 22, 2011 22:37:39 GMT -5
Jan, hurry up and claim roleblocker.
Tell everyone you blocked Choie, and you think might be a serial killer since she didn't follow the expected Vig actions.
It'll probably get a claim out of her.
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Post by special on Dec 23, 2011 0:02:01 GMT -5
Hold off on that.
Let's see how this plays out.
right now, we've got choie potentially switching to our side.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 0:31:46 GMT -5
Oh no, she's gone and voted for me for being whacked and too quite
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Post by special on Dec 23, 2011 0:39:04 GMT -5
Oh no, she's gone and voted for me for being whacked and too quite Well give it a little. You've got a claim open to you. And you can throw suspicion on her for it. At least for being a killer. Think about who you might have blocked on other Nights.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 0:45:52 GMT -5
I am going to write a claim now, I'll post it here 1st.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 1:00:06 GMT -5
Oh gosh, I hate being the lynch leader so late in the day! I have reason to believe that choie is the SK. Everyone must have noticed that there was only one NK the night that guiri died and I believe that happened because I blocked choie, yes, this is a claim. If you look back over her posts she was rather adamant that there wasn’t a Vig, she kept wanting Septimus to protect someone else other than himself, she doesn’t think that Precam could be the Vig. On night 1 I blocked Svejk, just because of his random vote for me and on N2 I blocked Precam just in case he was the Vig.
I no longer think there is a Vig and I am pretty sure choie is the SK.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 1:00:56 GMT -5
Does that look ok?
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 1:04:38 GMT -5
Oh gosh, I hate being the lynch leader so late in the day! I have reason to believe that choie is the SK. Everyone must have noticed that there was only one NK the night that guiri died and I believe that happened because I blocked choie, yes, this is a claim. If you look back over her posts she was rather adamant that there wasn’t a Vig, she kept wanting Septimus to protect someone else other than himself, she doesn’t think that Precam could be the Vig. One night 1 I blocked Svejk, just because of his random vote for me and on N2 I blocked fubbles because I still think he is scum. I no longer think there is a Vig and I am pretty sure choie is the SK.
I changed my mind about precam
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 1:11:04 GMT -5
Crap, I can't have blocked fubbles either
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 1:13:36 GMT -5
Hopefully this one is ok Oh gosh, I hate being the lynch leader so late in the day! I have reason to believe that choie is the SK. Everyone must have noticed that there was only one NK the night that guiri died and I believe that happened because I blocked choie, yes, this is a claim. If you look back over her posts she was rather adamant that there wasn’t a Vig, she kept wanting Septimus to protect someone else other than himself, she doesn’t think that Precam could be the Vig. On night 1 I blocked Svejk, just because of his random vote for me and on N2 I blocked Special Ed because of his new playing style. I no longer think there is a Vig and I am pretty sure choie is the SK.
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Post by septimus on Dec 23, 2011 2:10:59 GMT -5
Septimus finally woke up!
If/when you role claim, Jan, I'd give it a little more emphasis. Also, you'll probably be asked to post your role PM. You can post the real original and your modified version here and I'll comment if you wish.
I don't think you need the role PM in your initial claim message, just be aware someone will probably insist you post it before EOD.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 2:34:11 GMT -5
Fubbles has asked already lol, I will modify one now.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 23, 2011 2:46:38 GMT -5
here goes
Role PM (mafia) ________________________________________ Jealous Ex-Girlfriend (Scum Roleblocker)
You are antagonist #1, the first taste of adversity before our young hero really starts to run into trouble. But, as the arc goes on, sometimes the hero realizes that early antagonist is actually waaaaay more crazy than previously thought, and is actually the primary antagonist after all! That's you.
Powers: 1. As a scum, you have access to the scum board, password being DancingWithDanger (although you'll need to make an account first). 2. The scum get a collective kill each night. Just tell me who you want dead and they'll get the boot. 3. You also get the ability, each Night, to stop another player from using their night action.
and the made up one
Role PM (mafia) ________________________________________ The Girlfriend (Town Roleblocker)
You are trying to actively protect our young hero before he runs into trouble. By disarming any potential threats, you hope to see our hero live a long and happy life.
Powers: You have the ability, each Night to stop another player from using their night action.
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