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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 13:52:35 GMT -5
Post by kat on Jan 31, 2009 13:52:35 GMT -5
Re direct off Ed onto me FCS. Are you sure? Because that would be good if an investigator targets Ed, but bad bad bad if a Vig does.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 14:57:25 GMT -5
Post by mrspecialed on Jan 31, 2009 14:57:25 GMT -5
Re direct off Ed onto me FCS. Are you sure? Because that would be good if an investigator targets Ed, but bad bad bad if a Vig does. I agree, let's redirect to someone else. Then the only reasonable downfall is if an investigator gets redirected to a third party. Some unreasonable things might be if he gets redirected to someone who is redirected by a town power back onto one of us :-) and klan... you dare compare the largest and greatest empire, The Khan in the history of the world with the klan? oh, wait, never mind, I just realized, I'm Ghengis Kahn, not Genghis Khan. I'm not a great world conqueror. I'm a laid off Walmart greeter. In fact, I tihnk I'm going to start trohwing teh h's in all my words in all hte wrong places.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 15:11:14 GMT -5
Post by pede on Jan 31, 2009 15:11:14 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about. ;D
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 16:48:45 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 16:48:45 GMT -5
And I take it all back. Whomever comes up with the most comprehensible idea gets a first go. With veto power from all else.
I am going to make the first unilateral godfather decision since it is my right gd right.
[BAAlex the milkman bingo master is going to sit here and scratch his ass[/b]
If I am needed to prop a door open or replenish the nachos I am available. Otherwise I am headed back to the main thread where I can be a little more confusing.
Seriously let's waddle someone and be done.
And I have no problemo with the vig situation. But will continue to defer to the group.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 17:09:14 GMT -5
Post by mrspecialed on Jan 31, 2009 17:09:14 GMT -5
I would like to:
1. create a waddle dee. 2. Send my newly created waddle dee out to block Hal Briston
I suggest that any action on me be redirected to some other townie that isn't sach, roxis, Hal, or Zeriel.
pede, will a redirection redirect multiple actions? I ask in case I'm targeted by a vig and protected by roxis for example or investigated. Will both actions be redirected?
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 17:35:10 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 31, 2009 17:35:10 GMT -5
And I take it all back. Whomever comes up with the most comprehensible idea gets a first go. With veto power from all else. I am going to make the first unilateral godfather decision since it is my right gd right. [BA Alex the milkman bingo master is going to sit here and scratch his ass[/b] If I am needed to prop a door open or replenish the nachos I am available. Otherwise I am headed back to the main thread where I can be a little more confusing. Seriously let's waddle someone and be done. And I have no problemo with the vig situation. But will continue to defer to the group.[/quote] I am sorry if I am just retarded, but I don't understand that post in the main thread. Please explain your reasoning. It seems really dangerous. If we are switching our mason with a townie they could target the other mason and kill him. If that happens ours will be killed one day earlier and we will have one fewer NK before the mason situation is over. If we switch the other mason and they target our mason it's even worse. I don't really think we want the town targeting either one. They were pretty likely to target them before, but now it's almost certain. Also by posting that it is at least a little bit risky to your own health. I could see some town getting very suspicious if one of their powers are redirected to someone else. They will see that you suggested they attack and they will wonder if you knew they would be switched. It also makes Ed more suspicious too if someone was targeting him and hits someone else. They will want to lynch him tomorrow instead of having a chance that they would have lynched Zeriel too. I am new and hopefully I am just misunderstanding, but it seems more risky than beneficial.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 17:43:10 GMT -5
Post by pede on Jan 31, 2009 17:43:10 GMT -5
I would like to:
1. create a waddle dee. 2. Send my newly created waddle dee out to block Hal BristonI suggest that any action on me be redirected to some other townie that isn't sach, roxis, Hal, or Zeriel. pede, will a redirection redirect multiple actions? I ask in case I'm targeted by a vig and protected by roxis for example or investigated. Will both actions be redirected? Okay. Noted. Yes. A redirection by Dark Samus would redirect all actions involved.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 17:54:26 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 31, 2009 17:54:26 GMT -5
I suggest that any action on me be redirected to some other townie that isn't sach, roxis, Hal, or Zeriel. I agree. I would also like to add Parzival to the list of ones we should not switch with. We don't want to switch with someone who is being target by someone else because then their effects would hit Ed.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 17:59:24 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Jan 31, 2009 17:59:24 GMT -5
Re direct off Ed onto me FCS. GK - who do you want to waddle? And I am inclined to go full bore - so our bartender should kill sin. Sounds so Christian don't it. About twelve hours and I'll draft it. No offense, but if I get all hosed can Barb or Charle draft it. Pede nothing is final until such time that it is unanimous by all of us or, lacking me, that barb or charl says so. Now let's hang low. And I will refuse to follow my own advice. Gotta be true to my nature and history. Yeeper Peepers. P.s. And I certainly am not picking on salad, diarrhea (this is a total peekerism) or the Klan. I just don't know you guys as well. Cause right now we are in a sweet spot. And I continue to apologize to our U.S. Conqueror. My dear Alex, what I choose to do with my powers is, if you'll pardon the expletive, what I choose to do! I guess the question is: is there anything better I can do with just two pikmin? I want to save the purple one for nightkillability, and I can't really do anything bar protect with a single blue pikmin. If you want me to switch to protecting Ed or Zeriel from nightkill I can do it and have a 75% chance of success (since my purple pikmin is worth two 25% chances of a save as well as two nightkill potentials). I'd rather save the purple guy for bigger and better things, like assassinations, though. He's got some serious power to him. Why waste him on protecting somebody who might not even be targeted? And yes, Pede, my protect is official, since it's bold and in blue. It's a bit late to be coming up with objections now guys. FTR, on working days - and every day bar Sundays and Wednesdays is that for me - I'm gonna be online from 9PM onwards GMT (which is about 4PM EST) but I can't come online when I'm at work. Tomorrow I'll be online during the daytime sporadically, so if you need any emergency pikmin relief, let me know here and I'll change my vote. Also I STRONGLY disagree with using the most powerful potion this early on when we know very little about either TD or Sinjin, especially as I think Sinjin might be good for a frame-up later on. I've already got enough dope on her to lay a 48-hr addict out cold. In the end it's not my decision, it's the poisoner's though. How about using "essence of hate" or "essence of love"? "Confusion" sounds like another powerful one that might be good to save up. FTR here's what I think the poisons probably do: Cure (1) - cures other poisons. Instant Death (1) - nightkill. Petrification (1) - makes the person affected unable to vote or do anything else for a round? Confusion (1) - redirects night actions onto random targets. (Might be good to use on Roxio on night 2, if we can get her to drink. Imagine if she tried to kill Ed, assuming he's still alive, and got another random target instead!) Sleep (2) - roleblocks during the night. Essence of Hate (2) - No idea, but should be interesting to find out! Essence of Love (3) - Makes any votes against the poisoner invalid maybe? Pollen (4) - Seriously, I have NO idea. Makes a large flower grow out of the target's head? Sounds awesome and useless.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:02:15 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Jan 31, 2009 18:02:15 GMT -5
Oh, and guys, don't forget the possibility that there might be a watcher to compliment the tracker, and that he might be on Ed as we speak. (Although a role-redirect might solve that particular problem.)
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:09:29 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Jan 31, 2009 18:09:29 GMT -5
OK I should probably clarify that mountain of fluff that I just posted.
- I 100% agree with the plan to switch actions off of Ed and onto a random townie who isn't likely to be night-killed or vigged.
- I furthermore would argue that it might be most effective to use "essence of hate" or "essence of love" on TDPats or Sinjin, since they've already drunk.
- I think we should work on getting Roxio to drink tomorrow night so that our poisoner can use "confusion" on her if Ed survives the day, since there's a good chance IMO that that redirects night actions, and she has a second-night kill. Alternatively we could just use "sleep" which would likely have an equally good effect.
- That is far more likely to happen if I can gain Roxio's confidence, and I think using one blue pikmin is the best way to do that. Not to mention that I only HAVE two pikmin right now - blue and purple - and there's no way I'm wasting the purple one when it's worth TWO pikmin to an extra nightkill.
- As a third option for tomorrow night, I can protect Ed if he survives the day. The difficulty there is that if I've already protected Roxio tonight, she's gonna suspect me of doing the same thing tomorrow night with him. I would MUCH RATHER get myself semi-cleared in at least one townie's mind, and use "confusion" on Roxio tomorrow.
OK, there's my ideas out there. Questions? Comments?
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:17:25 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 18:17:25 GMT -5
Zach, to which post do you refer?
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:22:09 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 18:22:09 GMT -5
Question: what is the meaning of life?
Comments: It's like herding cats.
PedeHow is this going to work? Can we just let every soul do their own thing? Cause I am in total deferral mode. See above.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:33:15 GMT -5
Post by kat on Jan 31, 2009 18:33:15 GMT -5
I think he's talking about this one: Not from me. I fell into a sleepy trap. One out of three, whoopee, good odds. And I kind of went blind on the other players. Now we've got a dead team member with potentially something worse coming up. I really don't think the scum faction is going to do us the favor of eliminating the non scum Mason. Maybe if we have a Vig that would help. I mean even if they were to hit wrong we only would lose one day as opposed to two. I am not suggesting how a town power role should behave because that is ultimately her or his choice and decision. Just kind of thinking out loud - always dangerous for my shelf life. And I'm leaning towards either MHaye or Rysto to switch Ed with at this point. I'm heading out to dinner soon, and will post an Official Action after I get home and browse through some of their postings.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:45:41 GMT -5
Post by pede on Jan 31, 2009 18:45:41 GMT -5
Question: what is the meaning of life? Comments: It's like herding cats. PedeHow is this going to work? Can we just let every soul do their own thing? Cause I am in total deferral mode. See above. The nightkill must be a group decision. It doesn't need to be unanimous, but it does need to be made in a group. The others are all individual decisions. You guys can talk about them together, but in the end it only matters what each player decides to do with his (or her) own power.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:48:30 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 18:48:30 GMT -5
But sheesh guys we want a vig on ed or z. Ed's shelf life is like non pasteurized milk. If barb can intuit who is the target then a town vig goes razing through the good guys. I know it's 50/50 but let's push it in and see who breaks. We will never win by being responders. We have to force the action and make town react to US. That's why I would kill sin if I were barkeeping. Who is to say that something random doesn't happen. Once again it is only my two cents. But if I go to a knife fight and have a convenient revolver in my boot I am pulling the sucker.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 18:53:46 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Jan 31, 2009 18:53:46 GMT -5
I think he's talking about this one: Not from me. I fell into a sleepy trap. One out of three, whoopee, good odds. And I kind of went blind on the other players. Now we've got a dead team member with potentially something worse coming up. I really don't think the scum faction is going to do us the favor of eliminating the non scum Mason. Maybe if we have a Vig that would help. I mean even if they were to hit wrong we only would lose one day as opposed to two. I am not suggesting how a town power role should behave because that is ultimately her or his choice and decision. Just kind of thinking out loud - always dangerous for my shelf life. And I'm leaning towards either MHaye or Rysto to switch Ed with at this point. I'm heading out to dinner soon, and will post an Official Action after I get home and browse through some of their postings. Yep, that's the one. I agree about Mhaye or Rysto. I am leaning towards one of the essences on Sinjin. I will decide what to do for certain in about 12 hours.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 19:05:14 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 19:05:14 GMT -5
Volume dos:
Nook and Kat can skip since they have been part of the carnage.
First game an I am jacked, posting and voting like a madman. Nanook bitch slaps me and I learn to keep my mouth shut (kind of).
Next game I/Nook find a way to break the sucker. I felt like shit but the mod actually complimented us on figuring it out.
Nother game and I am hammered and decide to false detec claim over another detec claim. Scum brethren chastise the heck out of me. Three days later I am still standing and our team becomes the first, to date, scum team not to lose a member.
Skrull - get a freaking miller role. End of game I am still alive and we win. That one, by the way was hilarious.
Just won in story's game by catching a runner and then breaking that sob.
Obtw, there has been some low moments, as well.
I am trying to play town. If I win we all win. Never forget that. If any of you decide that it helps OUR team by dissing me FCS do it. Remember we are a team. Regardless of whether you make it to end game if the last person standing is scum we all win. That's why charle and barb can be so helpful. Not that the rest of you aren't, just because they are artists and the rest of us are just flinging poo with our watercolors, me included.
Hey look, it's Matisse.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 19:48:00 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 19:48:00 GMT -5
Ok. Well if that's the one then I am glad I initiated it. Cause if I can think it then anyone can.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 20:35:53 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Jan 31, 2009 20:35:53 GMT -5
I agree on MHaye and Rysto. Hell, if one of them gets vig-dusted, it'll be a helluva smart player down. (Come to think of it, why hasn't Rysto been in more consideration for the nightkill? I'm not suggesting we switch now, I'm just curious about why he's not been considered more, given that he pretty much owned "apocalypse" from the get-go...)
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 20:39:58 GMT -5
Post by mrspecialed on Jan 31, 2009 20:39:58 GMT -5
[ If you want me to switch to protecting Ed or Zeriel from nightkill I can do it and have a 75% chance of success (since my purple pikmin is worth two 25% chances of a save as well as two nightkill potentials). I'd rather save the purple guy for bigger and better things, like assassinations, though. He's got some serious power to him. Why waste him on protecting somebody who might not even be targeted? Don't waste it on me, at most you'll buy me an additional Day and 1 extra roleblock. Not worth it at this point especially, since we really don't know who to block.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 20:42:38 GMT -5
Post by mrspecialed on Jan 31, 2009 20:42:38 GMT -5
OK I should probably clarify that mountain of fluff that I just posted. - I 100% agree with the plan to switch actions off of Ed and onto a random townie who isn't likely to be night-killed or vigged. - I furthermore would argue that it might be most effective to use "essence of hate" or "essence of love" on TDPats or Sinjin, since they've already drunk. - I think we should work on getting Roxio to drink tomorrow night so that our poisoner can use "confusion" on her if Ed survives the day, since there's a good chance IMO that that redirects night actions, and she has a second-night kill. Alternatively we could just use "sleep" which would likely have an equally good effect. - That is far more likely to happen if I can gain Roxio's confidence, and I think using one blue pikmin is the best way to do that. Not to mention that I only HAVE two pikmin right now - blue and purple - and there's no way I'm wasting the purple one when it's worth TWO pikmin to an extra nightkill. - As a third option for tomorrow night, I can protect Ed if he survives the day. The difficulty there is that if I've already protected Roxio tonight, she's gonna suspect me of doing the same thing tomorrow night with him. I would MUCH RATHER get myself semi-cleared in at least one townie's mind, and use "confusion" on Roxio tomorrow. OK, there's my ideas out there. Questions? Comments? I f I survive Day 2. I can roleblock roxio Night 2, to force town to waste a lynch on me. Or perhaps we can consider using confusion on me Night 2 to see what it does. Though it might make my roleblock go crazy
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 20:50:19 GMT -5
Post by mrspecialed on Jan 31, 2009 20:50:19 GMT -5
always best to think like a townie when posting in the town thread.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 22:34:00 GMT -5
Post by kat on Jan 31, 2009 22:34:00 GMT -5
Okay, I'm gonna say switch Special Ed and Rysto.
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Night 1
Jan 31, 2009 23:08:49 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Jan 31, 2009 23:08:49 GMT -5
Ksowatdascoop?
can you figure out what we are doing based on the posts or do we have to be more kind of formal like.
And if you can post what we are doing I would be greatly appreciative.
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Post by pede on Feb 1, 2009 0:03:21 GMT -5
Ksowatdascoop? can you figure out what we are doing based on the posts or do we have to be more kind of formal like. And if you can post what we are doing I would be greatly appreciative. I've gotten every scum's individ. action but Peach (crazypunker (Zach)), but I think he hasn't submitted his yet. I strongly suspect your NK is Sheik (Nanook (Charles)) kills Sach. Is that correct?
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Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 1, 2009 4:12:13 GMT -5
OK I should probably clarify that mountain of fluff that I just posted. - I 100% agree with the plan to switch actions off of Ed and onto a random townie who isn't likely to be night-killed or vigged. - I furthermore would argue that it might be most effective to use "essence of hate" or "essence of love" on TDPats or Sinjin, since they've already drunk. - I think we should work on getting Roxio to drink tomorrow night so that our poisoner can use "confusion" on her if Ed survives the day, since there's a good chance IMO that that redirects night actions, and she has a second-night kill. Alternatively we could just use "sleep" which would likely have an equally good effect. - That is far more likely to happen if I can gain Roxio's confidence, and I think using one blue pikmin is the best way to do that. Not to mention that I only HAVE two pikmin right now - blue and purple - and there's no way I'm wasting the purple one when it's worth TWO pikmin to an extra nightkill. - As a third option for tomorrow night, I can protect Ed if he survives the day. The difficulty there is that if I've already protected Roxio tonight, she's gonna suspect me of doing the same thing tomorrow night with him. I would MUCH RATHER get myself semi-cleared in at least one townie's mind, and use "confusion" on Roxio tomorrow. OK, there's my ideas out there. Questions? Comments? I f I survive Day 2. I can roleblock roxio Night 2, to force town to waste a lynch on me. Or perhaps we can consider using confusion on me Night 2 to see what it does. Though it might make my roleblock go crazy I don't agree with the confusion on you. I only have one, so if I see what it does it won't matter because I wouldn't have any more to use anyways. I think if I killed Sinjin tonight it would make Shaggy look very suspicious. He already has 3-4 people looking at him suspiciously. If one of the ones he is arguing with suddenly dies then it will just be one more thing to make him look bad. If you still think I should save Instant Death for further information then I will use either Elixir of Hate or Petrification on Sin. I have 1 petrification and 2 elixir of Hate Maybe elixir of Hate will turn him into an Angry French Midget. (AFM)
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Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 1, 2009 4:17:00 GMT -5
I meant Essence of Hate of course.
If I make my choice now can I still change it before the night is over if I change my mind?
The reason I ask is I will be going to a friend's house in a little bit and I plan to check this one more time before the end of Night 1, but I will be consuming alcoholic beverages and I might forget. If I know I can change it then I will submit my action now and change it at his house if my fellow scum give me information/advice that changes my mind. If not then I will just wait and make sure that I remember to check it at his house.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 1, 2009 4:20:34 GMT -5
Essence of Hate might make him vote for me or use his power on me. I am not sure. Essence of Love might make him have the lover role or it might make him protect me or not vote for me.
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Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 1, 2009 4:22:24 GMT -5
Pollen might make the target sneeze in their posts.
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