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Post by pede on Dec 11, 2011 12:05:38 GMT -5
(Secretly, I'm rooting for you guys)
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 12:46:40 GMT -5
me too!
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Post by silverjan on Dec 11, 2011 13:10:18 GMT -5
Six down YAY!
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Post by septimus on Dec 12, 2011 3:24:45 GMT -5
I'm considering the following post. Please advise. (Is there a way to fashion this post into a trick in our favor?) * * * * * * I'd hoped that there'd be only a single Death last Night to complete my semi-confirmation, but the two Deaths pose a puzzle. Here are some of the possibilities: - 1. We have three Killers.
- 2. The Vig felt my volunteering to be Killed was proof enough of my sincerity, without following through on the experiment.
- 3. The "Vig" is actually a Serial Killer trying to maximize his Kills, or hoping Town will now Lynch its Doctor.
- 4. Septimus' claim was false; he knew he wouldn't die because he is the SK!
There were only two Deaths on Night 1, but this seems only a weak argument against (1) since targets could have been duplicated (or self-protecting Septimus targeted) or a non-compulsory Killer could have held off. But I'd ask experienced players how likely a game with 3 killers would be. If (2), I'd deprecate the Vig who ended up just killing another Townie. (3) seems rather likely, especially with our Cop dead. Obviously I know (4) is false, but argue against it anyway! If I were a compulsory SK I'd probably have false-claimed Vig. If I were a non-compulsory SK, I'd probably have targeted no one last Night in order to complete the "proof" that I'm Doctor. Meanwhile, with the demonstration still incomplete I'll be in a quandary whether to self-protect or not. I hope Townies will discuss in the thread whether they want Vig to target me toNight to complete the experiment. |
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 12, 2011 5:11:55 GMT -5
don't bring more attention to yourself. #4 is a no-no IMO. i wonder if we can actually have a no NK one time to help cement Septimus' claim.
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Post by special on Dec 12, 2011 7:55:09 GMT -5
Haven't been to the thread yet.
I'd advise not getting into this unless really prompted.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 12, 2011 11:32:48 GMT -5
Don't post #4 Thanks for the reply about the SK and the Vig, Ed, now what else don't I "know" so I can post more crap  |
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Post by special on Dec 12, 2011 11:37:05 GMT -5
Don't post #4 Thanks for the reply about the SK and the Vig, Ed, now what else don't I "know" so I can post more crap I almost ignored it. But guiri is good enough to pick up on me ignoring people |
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Post by silverjan on Dec 12, 2011 12:54:59 GMT -5
He is quite good at things like that isn't he.
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Post by septimus on Dec 15, 2011 6:44:24 GMT -5
I need to get a vote down. Please advise on this:
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I'm still in a quandary as we approach End of Day. The vote-switching yesterDay to protect Scathach still seems quite suspicious, but it almost seems unfair to vote for him based only on that. Frankly I'm confused (and a little suspicious) that votes are on Švejk for the vote-switching, instead of on the alleged Scum Švejk was allegedly protecting.
There seems to be some personal animosities venting in the thread. Are they real or play-acting? Mahaloth's reaction seems out of proportion to the snark directed against him.
And some behavior seems too Scummy to be from Scum! fubbleskag's vote for me really was inexplicable, but would Scum do that?
I'm not totally convinced by this, but with EOD approaching will get a vote down.
Vote Mahaloth
I'd be happy to move my vote to Scathach, special ed or choie if someone posts a good case summary.
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Post by special on Dec 15, 2011 7:33:05 GMT -5
Seems good. I'll probably hit you for telling me who you're willing to switch to, especially when we aren't mentioned at all.
It would be unlike me to ignore that especially when my name is mentioned.
But it seems good. Make sure you preview.
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Post by septimus on Dec 15, 2011 11:18:31 GMT -5
While I'm thinking about it, my thoughts on toNight's actions: I still recommend guiri to kill, and hope it's not too late. He seems to have zeroed in on all of us.  I think it's a mistake to kill and block the same person. In some cases (Watcher, Tracker) the kill renders the block useless. Even in cases (e.g. Vig) where the block is effective on the killee, it's less informative: Blocking and killing two different people gives us two chances to find Vig. Don't know who we're going to want to Protect. We all seem to be in danger.  |
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Post by septimus on Dec 15, 2011 12:31:33 GMT -5
Please review possible post. But if I post this, it'll be fishy not to Vote Ed, no?
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Damned if I do, and damned if I don't. I think Town needs to cooperate to find Scum. You're now high on the list because of your vote for Švejk. I've had nothing but strong Town vibes from him; the only suspicious action I've seen is the vote-switch to save his alleged scum-buddy, but that's predicated on Scathach being Scum. In that case why not vote for Scathach? I'm beginning to suspect Scathach is Scum, but Scum wants to take down a few of the innocents "protecting" him first. And your tone definitely seems different this game, special ed; perhaps the only reason I'm not voting you is that you always seem different! :cool: And, BTW, not knowing when Day ends is either anti-Town (you're not paying attention) or Scummy (you and your fellows know more about the game state than anyone and are feigning ignorance. So Bah! back at you.)
choie was on the scathach-saving team and also has a changed more-confident tone than in the previous game. Is it wrong to ask if others are pinged by her?
I'm trying to find Scum and seek help. Instead we see non-game related snark, and charges against the semi-confirmed Doc.
Bah yourself!
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 15, 2011 13:27:27 GMT -5
don't be harping on your semi-confirmedness too much.
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Post by septimus on Dec 15, 2011 14:02:58 GMT -5
As real Town, I would probably vote Ed right now, adding the excerpt below to part of my tentative post above. This is likely to mean Ed's death. But Ed or Gnarly is likely to be Lynched toDay anyway, so it may be time to buss -- perhaps Gnarly can get some credibility. But I do not want to vote for Scum without Scum's "permission."  * * * * * * * We seem to agree that Scum Svejk with Town Scathach is the least likely possibility. That's why votes on Svejk don't make sense. We should vote for whoever is most likely to be Scum. If we Lynch Scathach and he flips Town that will soft-clear Svejk, but the converse is not true. If we Lynch Scathach and he flips Scum we may not be sure whether to Lynch Svejk or not, but those voting Svejk are willing to Lynch him now, even without the extra evidence that Scathach is Scum. This makes me very suspicious of the Svejk voters. |
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Post by special on Dec 15, 2011 18:13:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd go after me for being wrong. But maybe not with a vote yet.
I'm clearly and most definitely wrong on this issue. I'm also hopeful that at this point others won't think wrong=scum, particularly guiri. He's seen me wrong often enough.
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Post by silverjan on Dec 16, 2011 3:28:10 GMT -5
Do you guys want to send me a vat of wine so I can post drunk again lol
We NEED to get rid of Guiri!!!!!
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Post by septimus on Dec 16, 2011 4:30:43 GMT -5
Who shall we Protect toNight? If not me, I may need to discuss in the game thread, as some are suggesting Vig NK me toNight?
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Post by silverjan on Dec 16, 2011 5:35:10 GMT -5
I think we should protect you tonight too, the Vig just might take a shot at you.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 16, 2011 11:43:57 GMT -5
hey, just got on. am i sacrificing myself?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 16, 2011 11:50:55 GMT -5
okay. i won't bother chiming in anymore. good luck!
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Post by septimus on Dec 16, 2011 12:46:48 GMT -5
Sorry, gnarly. Let's hope it was for the greater good. |
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Post by silverjan on Dec 16, 2011 14:16:30 GMT -5
Damnit...... I loves ya!!! We will win |
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Post by silverjan on Dec 16, 2011 14:17:55 GMT -5
We need to get rid of Guiri!! and maybe block choie??
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Post by septimus on Dec 16, 2011 23:52:50 GMT -5
Due to my role PM mistake, I'll probably be Lynched soon. I hope the two of you benefit by voting early for me (though not too over-eager). Recall that in Dee'n'dee Mafia Scum Lynched septimus (Scum Godfather) ... in a close contest where I would have survived without the Scum votes. The very next Day, Scum similarly Lynched Scum Red Skeezix. And Scum went on to win the game.
I'll try to save myself by pleading for another experiment -- proving I'm the Doctor by Vig targeting me -- but most important is that you two get credit for my Lynch.
Re: role PM. Mine has "(Scum Doctor)" in red. If it were a Town PM, would the "Town Doctor" be in blue? Or green? The timestamp on the PM is 2:18 (2:18 PM EST). Assuming Trepa sent PM's in logical batches this might be a way to handshake. If you get chances, please tell me your timestamps in case it comes up.
For actions, my recommendations are:
Protect: septimus
Kill: guiri
Block: (don't know, Choie is fine)
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Post by silverjan on Dec 17, 2011 2:20:51 GMT -5
Definitely protect Septimus and kill Guiri Choie just frightens me, even more than Ed does If I ever Mod another game it will be a definite no no posting role PM's. I nearly got myself into trouble doing that as scum but fortunately no one noticed and I had to tell them my mistake in the spoilers, it was so glaringly obvious to me. |
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Post by silverjan on Dec 17, 2011 2:33:48 GMT -5
I have also noticed that my role PM mentions Mafia. I am going to find it really hard to make a case against Septimus, I hate bussing my team mates even to get town cred. Hopefully after Guiri is gone people will leave me alone for a while. What other power roles do you think town might have, Masons??? That hasn't come up yet. I think we must have a Vig or an SK (why did I put an in front of S???, because of the way it sounds and I do know that it is wrong) They could have watchers or trackers, perhaps? There can't be a doc otherwise they would have come out when Septimus claimed. I am just hoping that my fake drunk posts take some suspicion off me A promise is a promise. It's rather hard to pretend to be drunk when your not lol |
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Post by septimus on Dec 17, 2011 14:23:48 GMT -5
Lest we forget to make it official:
Protect: septimus
Kill: guiri
Block: choie
Ed, what are your thoughts?
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Post by silverjan on Dec 17, 2011 14:27:42 GMT -5
I agree, sorry I'm not Ed  |
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Post by pede on Dec 17, 2011 23:23:23 GMT -5
I agree, sorry I'm not Ed I'm sorry I'm not ed too. |
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