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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 14:24:35 GMT -5
1. Can we save Rysto?
2. Who should we kill?
I assume we are killing Thing Fish....let me know if it is otherwise.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 14:42:27 GMT -5
3. BillMC (claims to be ensinned) 6. Peekercpa (PURE) 7. Inner Stickler (claims to be ensinned) 12. Meeko (MASON) 18. Thing Fish (SINFUL)
Well, let's remember, I'm guessing all but TF started out as VT. So if we can dig good, REALLY good, arguments up against TF, we may want to leave him for the lynch, and NK Meeko, the only confirmed player.
We need to think, not only about our NK toNight, but who is going to be the easiest lynch, toMorrow.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 15:18:02 GMT -5
I think we have to kill TF toNight to prevent losing the game to the Sinners.
Rysto, can you think of any way to be saved from the lynch toMorrow? Anything?
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Post by rysto on Jun 1, 2009 15:41:04 GMT -5
Like I said in the last thread, I'm going to claim Sinner at the last minute and hope that everybody forgets that I came up Blackheart. The Town might just panic and go for somebody else. It's a humongous long shot, but I don't have anything to lose here.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 18:21:58 GMT -5
It's a humongous long shot, but I don't have anything to lose here. Do whatever you have to do to survive. If all three of us make it through toMorrow, we win.
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Post by rysto on Jun 1, 2009 18:27:55 GMT -5
Anyway, we should kill Thing Fish. The Sinners could theoretically win toNight: the Night 1 and Night 4 ensinned players are unaccounted for, which means that 2 of the 3 players we believe to be pure could actually be impure.
Joey, it's your job to find a pure Townie. Once we know of one, as long as we don't kill them we can't lose to the Sinners(it's fine to lynch them because that will trigger our win condition).
If whoever you investigate toNight is impure, kill them toMorrow Night. We have to keep killing impure townies to win this. Repeat this until the game is over.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 18:40:20 GMT -5
We also need to look through the thread and see who we can develop a case against.
Also, I think you need to play like AllWalker toNight/toMorrow. Just act like a townie that's got a bandwagon going against you. Answer every single question as 'honestly' as you can, and make sure all of your answers are consistent. All you need to to is put enough doubt in someone's mind to get them to move their vote to someone else. If one town moves their vote away from you, we could have a tie, if two people move their vote away from you, we can get a mislynch.
I think we need to make sure we are all online in the last hour or so of the Day, if we can't subtly all vote for the same person (like if someone says something stupid that makes them an easy lynch, or we get a REALLY good case against someone), we may all need to move our votes as late as possible so the rest of town doesn't really have a good chance to react (acutally, one or two of us should already be on the new lynchee, that way if we don't get it, Town won't see all three of us move at the exact same time).
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 18:47:46 GMT -5
I want to calculate the math on our Daytime voting. Is this the correct "alive" list? I've been updating it pretty good as we go, and this is who I have in the game.
Alive:
1. Peeker 2. Inner Stickler 3. Joey P. 4. Mahaloth 5. Meeko 6. Rysto 7. Thing Fish
Is this correct? Did I miss anyone?
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 18:50:19 GMT -5
Edit:
I think I forgot Paul. Is the below list right?
1. Peeker 2. Inner Stickler 3. Joey P. 4. Mahaloth 5. Meekox 6. Rysto 7. Thing Fish 8. Paul
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Post by rysto on Jun 1, 2009 19:08:27 GMT -5
Yes, there are 8 players alive right now.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 19:59:02 GMT -5
OK, so with 7 alive in the morning, we carry 3 votes.
Is it possible we can pull one vote our way? Meeko maybe?
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 20:28:11 GMT -5
It's gonna be tough to get Meeko off of Rysto.
But Meeko seems to think him and you [mahaloth] are buddy buddy. He's doing that "Wink wink, nudge nudge, we understand each other" thing that he's done with a couple of other players throughout the game. Also, we don't need anyone changing their minds just yet. Even if they agree that Rysto might not be the best person to lynch, they still have 7 days to change their mind. Better to get them to vote someone else when there's not as much time left. BUT, also, we are at the point in the game, where if everyone makes up their mind early, the thread will sort of die down for a while. So that means we need to keep the thread just active enough that it keeps everyones interest, but not so active that people change their minds too many times before Day end....make sense?
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 20:47:02 GMT -5
Meeko is becoming.....eerily calm. I'm waiting for him to snap.
When/If he does, I'm hoping he votes for someone other than Rysto.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 21:07:34 GMT -5
Paul just said he will not be voting Rysto in the morning because he thinks he's a sinner.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 21:24:59 GMT -5
That's a good thing, a VERY good thing. I think Meeko will follow Paul's vote.
Rysto, if Paul's theory gains momentum, you might find that rather then claiming Sinner, you might be spending toMorrow trying to prove that you aren't a sinner. If that's the case, you might need to use weak/flawed arguments. If your anti-sinner case is too strong, you might get pegged as a BH. As has been said before, Town can't afford to lynch anything but a BH.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 21:26:31 GMT -5
Nevermind.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 1, 2009 21:30:33 GMT -5
Now paul is voting Rysto again.
Yeesh.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 21:57:56 GMT -5
While I don't 100% agree with it, keep Pauls quote here in mind
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 22:00:52 GMT -5
Maybe you could argue Miller Sinner (a sinner, but you return a BH result when investigated)
Otherwise we need to come up with a REALLY REALLY good reason as to why AW claimed that you are a BH.
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Post by rysto on Jun 1, 2009 23:01:44 GMT -5
Or I try something else.
Miller Sinner Doctor is a silly role. They'd never believe it.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 23:25:37 GMT -5
meh, just tossing it out there.
Everyone is 100% convinced you are a BH. Now, what we have to convince them of is that you aren't a BH, either AW made it up OR AW got that result when he investigated you. So, we have three ways to get a mislynch 1)convince town that AW got a misreading for one reason or another 2)convince town that AW lied 3)convince town that someone else is scummier then you are.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 1, 2009 23:30:15 GMT -5
Redirector...very good. I hadn't thought of that.
Who do you plan to protect? On the one hand, I'd say you should protect Mahaloth. Mahaloth, I assume you haven't been sinfected, correct? Assuming that's the case, keeping him pure, will keep the sinners from winning the game. OTOH, protecting a real town, has it's obvious advantages (the confirmation) OTOOH, if you protect a sinner, they may claim to not have been protected in order to get you lynched.
What's your plan?
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Post by joeyp on Jun 2, 2009 6:58:23 GMT -5
Mahaloth, answer Meeko's question with care. Remember, he REALLY trusts you.
As for Paul, let's see if Pede pulls him from the game. I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped posting though, he is modding his own game at Giraffe.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 2, 2009 7:40:32 GMT -5
I am still pure and could use the sinfection protection, so to speak.
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Post by rysto on Jun 2, 2009 8:06:43 GMT -5
A modkill of paul gives the game to us.
Have fun with this call, pedescribe.
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Post by joeyp on Jun 2, 2009 8:33:44 GMT -5
If he isn't modkilled, could we turn this into a scum tactic?
Pede, does AW have until dusk to put his action in?
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 2, 2009 8:43:03 GMT -5
Mahaloth, answer Meeko's question with care. Remember, he REALLY trusts you. . I tried to be careful. I don't even get why paul wants to die. Why does he feel he has to even talk to Meeko?
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Post by joeyp on Jun 2, 2009 9:08:17 GMT -5
I think it's not so much that he's sick of having to interact with Meeko, it's that Meeko is playing VERY poorly. He's asking questions that have no place in the game. He's been (well, he claims) conducting 'tests' to which we never find the results of. Withholding info etc etc etc. Frankly, if he wasn't confirmed town, he'd have been killed a looooong time ago, he's been playing a very scummy game.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 2, 2009 9:29:31 GMT -5
Oh, we totally would have lynched Meeko on Day Two or so, I think.
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Post by mahaloth on Jun 2, 2009 9:30:47 GMT -5
I just want to make sure I don't forget. We can change our mind if you guys want.
Mahaloth kills Thing Fish
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