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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 2:40:01 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 20, 2009 2:40:01 GMT -5
Kat can claim to have no idea what I am talking about. She wasn't targeted by anything. If they lynch me she will still look good.
One other small thing. It is 8:5 town:scum right now. If Paul hit someone and they get 6 or more votes we will have enough scum to lynch that person without any town votes. Guaranteed win! The only problem is he will probably target me or Nanook. He seemed to be focusing on us in the day thread. He might target KidV though if he targets the second person in votes like someone mentioned.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 5:55:51 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 20, 2009 5:55:51 GMT -5
I get the feeling that someone is going to try and target Natlaw tonight. They have been talking about not targeting Nanook because he can't be hit, but they know that Sheik has the lover role, so the will probably try to do something to him that way. Maybe our redirect should be Roxis and Natlaw. Good idea. And yeah, I didn't take into account that KidV might target Nanook / Natlaw instead of Peeker or Punker. OK - "Sleep" KidV, get Roxis to commit suicide? Can we even do that? It would be seven shades of awesome, sure...
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 7:17:49 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 20, 2009 7:17:49 GMT -5
My vote is to switch Roxis/Natlaw. Sleep or Essence of Love KidV. NK Pollux. Olimar can hide someone.
I am kind of leaning towards essence of love just because I am curious. Lol, I know that is a bad reason, so whatever.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 8:31:12 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 8:31:12 GMT -5
And I'd be redirecting off me or salad. If paul whacks charle and gets killed if we are at all even close to the mechanic of their role bye bye natlaw, right.
Then the only question is whom do I trophify?
It's like being at the Chinese buffet on seafood night and having to choose between the crab claws, shrimp or lobster tails.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 11:32:05 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 20, 2009 11:32:05 GMT -5
Let them target Natlaw. I don't think it'll work to start with, and even if it does that's fine. What we can't afford to have happen is for Punker or peeker to get whacked. I would swap peeker and Roxis, sleep KidV, and trophify Pollux or Hoopy.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 11:47:54 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 11:47:54 GMT -5
Extactally. And I am inclined to go Pollux. But that was based on the magic penny coin flip so if anyone wants to use logic that would be cool.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 12:07:24 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 12:07:24 GMT -5
And one last observation. Our short French leader has been relegated to diversionary stuff. We need the kills. So if it comes down to it - to Corsicana you go.
It's all for the good of the empire, don't you know.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 14:26:58 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 20, 2009 14:26:58 GMT -5
I will use Sleep on KidV
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 14:29:16 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 20, 2009 14:29:16 GMT -5
That is if nothing else changes and everyone else agrees. I don't now how much time I will have to log in for the next couple of days and I don't want to miss my chance to use a potion.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 14:58:30 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 14:58:30 GMT -5
That sounds like a plan.
Woot Woot I trophy roxis. Charle and Barb do their nasty.
Let's rock and roll.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 15:09:19 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 20, 2009 15:09:19 GMT -5
I make Barb invisible[/color]
We're almost at the point where we can just dogpile on somone and end the game. In fact, if it ends up 7-5 when the day starts, which will be the case if the trophy goes through and there's no other NKs, Molefan can bus someone and push it to LYLO. One double NK later, we win. If we assume the second NK fails for whatever reason, we just need to all dogpile on the same person. Something to consider.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 16:22:54 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 20, 2009 16:22:54 GMT -5
[/color] We're almost at the point where we can just dogpile on somone and end the game. In fact, if it ends up 7-5 when the day starts, which will be the case if the trophy goes through and there's no other NKs, Molefan can bus someone and push it to LYLO. One double NK later, we win. If we assume the second NK fails for whatever reason, we just need to all dogpile on the same person. Something to consider.[/quote] Trouble is, we won't get a double nightkill unless I get another purple peril in the next two Pikmin. Make sure you guys know who you're trophyfying / swapping. I'm happy with Roxis as a target, just as I'm happy with Hoopy, but don't for God sake target Roxis for the nightkill and then have Kat swap her with peeker! BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE BAD.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 16:45:41 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 20, 2009 16:45:41 GMT -5
There's another possibilty, though it's slim. If we're wrong about sleep preventing Night actions, and instead it acts like Sach's egg and stops someone from voting, we can dogpile tomorrow depending on the results of the hammer. Remember, 7-5. For the sake of argument, let's say KidV can't vote tomorrow. That means, for the purposes of voting, it's 6-5. Sounds like we can't dogpile right? But if Roxis(or whoever) ends up with 5 votes...we dogpile, that's 20 points, the best the town can muster on one person is 18. Instant mislynch.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 17:49:36 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 20, 2009 17:49:36 GMT -5
sounds like tonight is an important night. let's hope we get the redirect right and a Vig kills town.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 18:11:15 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 18:11:15 GMT -5
And I will chime in. Depending on what happens tonight let's have no fear about a fucking pile on tomorrow. If we don't cinch it tonight then I am tomorrow's sacrificial lamb. Believe me I am looking forward to that. We just want to be in a place that we can get a twofer in the next two days. So I would suggest we keep the fleas as safe as possible. And we have no clue what the salad's concotion mght bring about.
And GD I still want to claim Chia and see what in the world breaks loose. I have no plan on writing some sort of believable type of PM.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 18:18:57 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 20, 2009 18:18:57 GMT -5
Oh no. My notes are on fire. I have a cross walk between names and roles that has been sitting on our outside table since day one. The missus keeps trying to throw it away. I won't let her. Now I am burned off. Freudian, me thinks.
Seriously do we want me to create so much confusion tomorrow that charle lives or do we fucking hang his ass?
Just let me know, cause I will do whatever the group communal decision is.
Off to Marley and the hemp.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 22:21:41 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 20, 2009 22:21:41 GMT -5
OK, first of all, Peeker, we're in a good spot right now. Don't let the Zelda thing worry you.
Second of all, if we get Nanook lynched tomorrow, we also take out a town.
Third thing, unless I get another purple Pikmin, we can't depend on me getting us a second night-kill. I lied about the number of Pikmin I had in the town thread, remember. I need six. I currently only have three, with a possible two more coming. Five ain't enough, folks.
So how's about this...
Current situation: 8 townies - 5 scum. Night 4: probably one townie down. 7 townies - 5 scum. Day 5: Nanook lynched, Natlaw dies. 6 townies - 4 scum. Night 5: 5 townies - 4 scum. Peeker or Punker can do the night kill. Day 6: If we can get a mislynch, we're set. Otherwise Peeker or Punker are probably going down. I can try a false investigation. Night 6: Double night kill, Punker and me? Can that happen? If so, we win.
Best case scenario: TWO townies down tonight. 6 townies - 5 scum. Day 5: Nanook lynched, Natlaw dies. 5 townies - 4 scum. Night 5: 4 townies - 4 scum. Peeker or Punker can do the night kill. Day 6: Mislynch and we've won.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 23:11:24 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 20, 2009 23:11:24 GMT -5
I'm still good with a roxis kill.
If we kill her, I'll switch peeker and natlaw. I'm still reading past Days to make up a fake target claim list.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 23:35:09 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 20, 2009 23:35:09 GMT -5
No, switching anyone onto or off of Natlaw makes no sense. For starters, there's a damn good chance it'll fail. And if it does work, it'll just kill me. This isn't a good thing. Switch peeker onto Roxis, and we kill someone else.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 23:51:40 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 20, 2009 23:51:40 GMT -5
Here's the list of posted targeting claims; and a possible target claim for me to make. Let me know if you notice any missing targeting claims, or if you have a better suggestion for me any of these Nights.
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Night 1 Mitey Mouse died Day 1 Zeriel and Sach died Night 1 Parzival (sidedkick) targeted roxis brokentree (paul) (judgement hammer) targeted Parzival molefan targeted roxis Hal claimed targeted peeker
Don’t claim: Zeriel, Sach, roxis, Parzival
Possible claim: aubby (now Chucara) and molefan Reasoning: Just targeted my 2nd and 3rd vote-getters Received the following PM:
Night 2 Ed died Day 2 Sinjin, Rysto and MHaye died Night 2 Parzival (sidekick) targeted Rysto Brokentree (paul) (judgement hammer) targeted sinjin Molefan targeted Hoopy Hal claimed targeted peeker
Don’t claim: sinjin, Rysto, MHaye, Hoopy
Possible claim: shaggy and aubby/Chucara Reasoning: Still aiming for scummy-seeming people, and aubby/Chucara was still on my scummylist. My other vote on Day 2 was paul, and I was started to have second thoughts during Night 2 about it.
Night 3 Chucara died Day 3 Hoopy’s surrogate and tdpatriots died Night 3 Peeker got a headache Night 3 Blockey vigged shaggy Night 3 or early Day 4 (not clear which) Paul targeted himself, hit Parzival Parzival targeted ?, hit paul Molefan claimed targeted Nanook Hal claimed targeted dead guy MHaye
Don’t claim: Hoopy, tdpatriots, peeker, blockey, shaggy, paul, Parzival, MHaye
Possible claim: Nanook and crazypunker Reasoning: Picked an actual lurker and someone who posted more but triggered my “I completely forgot that person was playing” meter a bit. Got the following PM:
Night 4 Possible claim: Natlaw and shaggy Reasoning: To test if Natlaw could be Night targeted, plus shaggy not likely to be a NK target, and if Natlaw was a NK target, loss of an essentially now-Vanilla better than a possible power role.
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Night 4
Feb 20, 2009 23:55:14 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 20, 2009 23:55:14 GMT -5
Well, if I'm going to be switching peeker and roxis, I move we kill Hoopy. 2nd choice: Parzival.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 0:05:51 GMT -5
Post by crazypunker22 on Feb 21, 2009 0:05:51 GMT -5
I still say we kill Pollux Oil, but Hoopy is good too.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 0:11:43 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 21, 2009 0:11:43 GMT -5
Why Pollux Oil?
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 4:00:23 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 21, 2009 4:00:23 GMT -5
Yeh. Don't switch me with Natlaw. That could be bad. I have no problemo with either hoop, parz or po. Kind of inclined (ignoring the magic penny) to go after hoopy since he is about as niller as they come. But also, like to swing for the fence and wouldn't have a problem with someone like shag. Just to confuse things, don't you know.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 11:47:50 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 21, 2009 11:47:50 GMT -5
And I want to add this, if I haven't already. I always thought that the scum would be all organized and stuff. And don't get me wrong we have worked well together. It just feels like a herd of cats following the fish monger. It is really causing me intestinal distress 'cause I am laughing so much. Seriously, a fake claim by an SK to have investigated a dead person. That was a hoot.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 16:56:05 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 21, 2009 16:56:05 GMT -5
OK.
First, I can't protect Natlaw. He'd know who protected him and that'd leave everyone asking "why"?
Second, I'd have to use a purple guy to be of any use, and that's worth two full Pikmin to an extra nightkill.
Third, here's an idea: why not switch Punker with someone? Punker and Hoopy, say.
Fourth, who on earth suggested switching Natlaw and Alexander? That would be disastrous, I agree. If we're switching either, it'll be because they might get NKd.
Fifth, why not have Charle do the night-kill instead of Alex? Will that leave your trophyfying ability intact for tomorrow night?
Or how's this for an idea... poisoned umbrella kill? Or does that mean that our poisoner can't get KidV slumbering?
So here's how I'd play it:
Peeker gets left alone. Hopefully someone's got an investigation they've been concealing. Punker and Roxis get switched up by our furry friend here. Pollux or Hoopy gets NKd. I'm tempted to go Hoopy, but Pollux has a role that's potentially more dangerous. I'm thinking it might be better to have Peach (if she can also poison) or Sheikh do the night kill in this case, and leave the trophyfying for tomorrow. I save my Pacmans for future night-kill potential.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 17:04:00 GMT -5
Post by nanook on Feb 21, 2009 17:04:00 GMT -5
I can't do the kill, I did it last Night. Only every other Night because of Zelda.
I think peeker is more likely to be targeted for a NK than punker. I might be wrong on that though. Who did Roxis suspect more at the end of the Day?
Well. Roxis didn't vote for either. The only other person with a potential kill is KidV, and he voted punker above peeker. There's always the vote charger of Paul, who voted for punker above peeker as well. Yeah, I gotta say that swapping punker and roxis makes more sense than peeker. So I would say go with that one.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 17:18:24 GMT -5
Post by kat on Feb 21, 2009 17:18:24 GMT -5
I think Peach can either poison or kill, and if she kills, she's got a 50% chance of her victim being poisoned and dying at Dusk.
Also, AFAIK, Tabuu doesn't have to skip a Night (peeker, is that right?) so if he wanted to, he could trophyfy every Night. Sheik's the one that has to skip Nights, so he can't kill toNight, anyone else can.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 17:20:45 GMT -5
Post by molefan1981 on Feb 21, 2009 17:20:45 GMT -5
I think Peach can either poison or kill, and if she kills, she's got a 50% chance of her victim being poisoned and dying at Dusk. Also, AFAIK, Tabuu doesn't have to skip a Night ( peeker, is that right?) so if he wanted to, he could trophyfy every Night. Sheik's the one that has to skip Nights, so he can't kill toNight, anyone else can. Except me. But thanks for the clarification.
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Night 4
Feb 21, 2009 21:29:59 GMT -5
Post by virginmary on Feb 21, 2009 21:29:59 GMT -5
Yepper I can kill every night. I suggest that we ride this horse as far as it will bring us. We've got kidv. I'd suggest Barb doing a redirect off our pikmin dude and charle protect barb. Now the million dollar question. What trophy do we want for a bookend? Hoop, parz, shag or paul?
It's a flippin' democracy so whatever. I just like the idea of swinging sideways since that is totally unexpected.
So far we have seen the wisdom of play like town and you are scum. Play like scum and you are town.
Oh well, we have another twenty hours or so. However, I am taking my wife out to dinner tomorrow so we need to decide by threeish CST.
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