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Post by naf1138 on Jan 26, 2009 11:58:45 GMT -5
Hey!
I noticed this game start a little late and the main game thread is already 4 pages long with a whole bunch of new players that I don't know. So that's neat.
Who else is watching or is it just me and the mods?
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 26, 2009 12:25:57 GMT -5
Wait...I'm supposed to be watching the game too?
;D
I literally just finished reading over the setup in entirety for the first time. DAMN! What a game. Most impressive setup, pede.
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 26, 2009 15:32:19 GMT -5
Thanks. It took a while, but I think it should work. I'm impressed that the scum have already managed to work around both Princess Peach's and Dedede's inherent problems.
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Post by pede on Jan 26, 2009 16:02:57 GMT -5
I would be incredibly amused if someone claimed vanilla.
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 26, 2009 16:07:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure why, but I wanna say that I've seen that happen before... Maybe it's just wishful thinking.
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 27, 2009 12:24:42 GMT -5
It's interesting just how fast the masonry is disintegrating. The scum are trying to take out both the town masons at once, the town masons want to lynch them all, and Zeriel, I think, is going to vig either of the other two masons.
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Post by naf1138 on Jan 27, 2009 13:51:29 GMT -5
The masonry thing is the part that I am most interested to see play out. I hope it doesn't totally fall apart right away.
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Post by pede on Jan 27, 2009 13:58:51 GMT -5
The masonry thing is the part that I am most interested to see play out. I hope it doesn't totally fall apart right away. It's certainly an interesting study. The way I see it, the group is in an inherently unstable situation, and because of the lack of players and directness generally found in a masonboard, it's destined to fall apart sooner rather than later.
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Post by pede on Jan 27, 2009 17:01:27 GMT -5
Zeriel targeted Mitey Mouse with his daykill, and the coin I flipped came up heads, so it went through...
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 27, 2009 17:04:07 GMT -5
So, assuming zeriel isn't 1st or 2nd in the vote tally at the end of the day, when will Mitey die? The role PM says dawn, so does that mean the dawn of day 2, along with the night kills?
Damn, that will make Ed's job easier....
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 27, 2009 17:07:52 GMT -5
So, assuming zeriel isn't 1st or 2nd in the vote tally at the end of the day, when will Mitey die? The role PM says dawn, so does that mean the dawn of day 2, along with the night kills? Damn, that will make Ed's job easier.... --FCOD It means dusk. I must have missed that one as well.
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Post by pede on Jan 27, 2009 17:10:26 GMT -5
Wait, back up--he's not allowed to target the other masons. I'm going to go and tell him.
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 27, 2009 17:10:31 GMT -5
Cool. I am surprised at the lack of participation on Day One. I too hate Day One, but usually there's more participation than this! I guess sacher is right...everyone thinks they are one of a few power roles and thus, nobody wants to put themselves out there. Nice job making it a non-vanilla game but not telling anyone --FCOD
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 27, 2009 17:11:21 GMT -5
Wait...the PM says he can, but it will autofail...
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 10:20:33 GMT -5
Okay, Zeriel retracted his kill.
I think sach is overplaying his hand--people might figure out he's a third-party trying to make a safe claim later on.
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 28, 2009 10:22:14 GMT -5
You are a much nicer mod than I am, lol! I totally would have let him waste his kill and mix up his votes. ;D And I dunno, it's pretty easy to pick on the lurker without garnering much suspicion. And Nanook is lurker harder than usual (for good reason, this time). --FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 10:33:58 GMT -5
You are a much nicer mod than I am, lol! I totally would have let him waste his kill and mix up his votes. ;D And I dunno, it's pretty easy to pick on the lurker without garnering much suspicion. And Nanook is lurker harder than usual (for good reason, this time). --FCOD Ya. Actually, I gave him that role on purpose. I know it's supposed to be completely random, but I figured, "If I give Sheik to a prolific poster, it will be completely unfun for that poster as they get bussed for lurking with a good reason.". So I gave it to an already lurky player. Everything else was random, though.
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 13:11:46 GMT -5
In case it was unclear, a player is trophyfied when they are nightkilled by Tabuu. There is no difference between killing and trophyfying. It's rather amusing to watch them attempt to puzzle out the trivia though.
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 28, 2009 13:20:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured that part out. I agree that it's hilarious they're so stuck on it.
Wait until someone actually gets trophyfied...they'll spend 3/4 of the day trying to figure out what it means.
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 14:28:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured that part out. I agree that it's hilarious they're so stuck on it. Wait until someone actually gets trophyfied...they'll spend 3/4 of the day trying to figure out what it means. --FCOD Yeah... Is it wrong that my favorite part of modding is watching the townspeople flail about in confusion?
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 28, 2009 14:32:43 GMT -5
Yeah... Is it wrong that my favorite part of modding is watching the townspeople flail about in confusion? Nope. The way I see it, laughing at the people trying to figure out what is going on is your payment for all the hard work you put into designing and running the game. --FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 15:34:49 GMT -5
Ooh, this is interesting. Personally, I wouldn't have claimed so early, but it might have been wise...
FTR, roxis is playing on my Facebook game at the same time. She seems like a pretty good player over there, and doesn't sound nearly as new there as she does here. A bit odd.
Anyway, I wonder how this will turn out?
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 28, 2009 15:36:36 GMT -5
Well, she forgot to claim that she's a TOWN power role...
Also, should that PM have said, "Each NIGHT you can use the power of the pokemon you currently have out?" Seems like she got the point, but people might call her on it.
--FCOD
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 15:49:11 GMT -5
Well, she forgot to claim that she's a TOWN power role... Also, should that PM have said, "Each NIGHT you can use the power of the pokemon you currently have out?" Seems like she got the point, but people might call her on it. --FCOD Gyahh! I missed another one!
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 15:54:56 GMT -5
Okay, I PMed her and told her her role PM is messed up in those two places. It may give her more ammo, but those are accusations she shouldn't have to weather.
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Post by pede on Jan 28, 2009 23:41:11 GMT -5
Whoa! Well, this should certainly be fun to watch.
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Post by pede on Jan 29, 2009 9:02:11 GMT -5
...I suppose I should feel a little bit guilty about this one.
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Post by flyingcowofdoom on Jan 29, 2009 9:15:11 GMT -5
Fuckity fuck this is awesome to watch!
Nice job by Parzival claiming town...that role is believable as town and once he helps someone in the town he'll be golden.
Zerial may have screwed over the town with his accusing mitey...people will probably want to kill him next for being wrong.
How is it that shaggy is avoiding being mentioned entirely? Good job on his part, lol.
--FCOD
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Post by sachertorte on Feb 1, 2009 16:43:55 GMT -5
I really liked the setup of this game. (I haven't read other roles yet). The characters give a good mix and surprisingly Everyone accepted that Names mean nothing without too much hassle (which surprised me).
My vote for Nanook was a shot in the dark. I really had no read on him, and I really just thought that we would be better off lynching him and just getting him out of the way. I'm kind of confused as to why he was replaced though. That doesn't seem fair that if he was purposefully lurking because he has to for some reason, that Town won't be able to compare his behavior on Day One with his replacement. I don't know the full story, but something seems inconsistent there. The Lurking thing is an issue, and as we design games, lurking really should be punished and never rewarded. Lurking will be the death of these games. There's a handful of them in every game. It will come to the point where the game is decided by how many lurkers and which ones are scum. Essentially, Town will have to either, lynch lurkers and risk losing because there aren't many scum in the lurker pool/ win easily because there are, or NOT lynch lurkers and risk losing because there are scum in the lurker pool/ win easily because there are no lurker scum. That's no fun.
Roxis was a conundrum. At first I really only wanted to accuse someone with some kind of reasoning like I'm apt to do. She was convenient, and I went at length to outline that the suspicion is dependent on future information. But no, others have to jump on my idea and push a really early claim. (BTW, Roxis became mostly confirmed Town to me when the masons claimed. SCUM wouldn't have roleclaimed if they knew the Mason explosion was imminent).
Anyway, Who else... Oh yeah, molefan. I'm surprised we didn't end up lynching him. He's pretty much begging for it with all the "you guys keep lynching me" talk. I really wanted to vote for him just for that. But I resisted. Then his interpretation of my thoughts have been grossly misrepresented. The guy isn't even reading closely. What's with the labeling me the PFK? He's too desperate to make himself look good. I doubt Town will pick up on it, but it's rather transparent.
I'm really kicking myself about Special Ed. I was starting to think he was scum before the mason thing happened, then everyone's take on him being so clean convinced me otherwise. It didn't help that Zeriel and miteymouse had little to no footprint in the game thread to compare to. Plus there was the 3-handed game that pretty much indicated that miteymouse was Town and Ed was scum, but I didn't pay close enough attention. Not that I would have done anything about it. I just would have ended up voting for miteymouse earlier than I did.
I toyed with a truthful roleclaim, but I decided that with a high likelihood of a Town Vig and the existence of PFK guy, roleclaiming would have led to my death too early. My hope was to leverage Town against Scum in the sense that Town lynching me helps scum, and scum nightkilling me helps Town. The problem was a pro-Town Vig of which I was sure there would be. I probably would have survived Night One with a claim (SCUM have no reason to believe I was lying), but I'd be dead by Night Two or Three for sure when the Vig has no other leads. I also could not roleclaim because I leave evidence (eggs). I asked pedescribe, and he told me Yoshi is the only SSB character that involves Eggs, so that complicated matters, but much less so than the Vig issue.
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Post by pede on Feb 1, 2009 16:59:48 GMT -5
Buwh? I subbed out Koldanar for Natlaw at Koldy's request.
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